Jeanie Bottle 680
Feb01
on February 1, 2022
at 12:00 am
and modified on December 27, 2022. at 1:10 am
Ohhhh boy… Now what?
By the way, the previously Patreon-exclusive Bonus Page 673.5 is now available on the main comic timeline.
Jean and Neil what did you do to the timeline? Also, Cool Genie Natalie. Well, there time traveling adventures are not over yet.
I’m betting on at least three loops. “One and done” is not sufficient to resolve a timey-wimey ball. And I don’t expect a return to the status quo either, it’s just going to keep going until things reach a new equilibrium.
reminds me of the flash series season 3 episode 1 were every time he went back in time to fix something instead of going back to his normal time line he just created a new one and eventually had to understand he can’t fix the past and as to live with it.
Wonder if this will turn out into something similar.
I for one would not mind having another genie in the gang just wonder what going to Jeanies though.
And now Natalie is a permanent fixture in reality and the timeline.
It had to happen eventually, though I wonder who her Master is? Rodge perhaps?
Assuming that is Natalie, my bet on master would be Zoey. Original-Neil’s tinkering with the timeline to let young-Neil and Zoey hang out at prom, resulted in them hooking up and getting married. With Jean out of the picture, Jean never bought the bottle. Instead, Zoey did and brought it home as a decoration. And Neil got curious and opened it.
This neatly prevents original-Neil from aiming for a modified timeline where he and Zoey are together. Any timeline where he and Zoey hook up ends up with him as a genie. They are star-crossed lovers, destined to always secretly want each other, but never able to be together as husband/wife for a meaningful time.
I hope it is permanent. I’m not sure if we know yet if these timelines are overwritten or left to exist once changes are made, with the time travelers following the latest timeline. Changing the past might erase her unless she’s saved.
Unless additional information makes this new genie’s existence miserable, I wouldn’t mind her ending up in the restored proper present. It could add a fun new dynamic.
It would make things complicated if there were two Natalies, but maybe this one ended up with a different name.
Who is her Master? I see several possibilities.
1. Jean and Neil went bottle shopping and Neil opened the bottle, making Jean her Master. (Dreadful thought.)
2. Neil and Zoey went bottle shopping and Neil opened the bottle, making Zoey her Mistress.
3. Neil went bottle shopping alone, opened the bottle and was inadvertently shipped to Dubai. (Agent Anderson’s filler arc.)
4. Neil went bottle shopping alone, opened the bottle and does not yet have an owner.
5. Neil went bottle shopping alone, stopped by work on his way home and opened it in Rodge’s presence, making Rodge her Master. (Another dreadful thought.)
Now that leaves this important question. Is it possible for two genies live in the same bottle? If not, and this is now Natalie’s bottle, what happens to Jeanie if she does not have a bottle?
We can assume that Jean didn’t pick up the Genie Bottle in this time line either and we know that Natalie in the other time line was the one the picked up the Genie Bottle to secure it and to try and prevent something like this from happening. So now we have three separate time lines out there and they are:
1. The original time line that we all know about of Jean becoming the new Genie of the Bottle and Neil is the Master.
2. Jean doesn’t become the Genie of the Bottle and Natalie is the the owner of the Genie bottle and other Neil is still an engineer in this time line.
3. Natalie is still in existence, but exist as a Genie now. Another question is, who Natalie Master or does she have one even and now we have a third time line now to deal with or a completely different reality to take into account when it comes fixing the time line now
So now we have Jeanie and Neil from the original time line that poof back into her bottle with Neil. We now have a second time line with there being a Natalie and Neil in it at the same time and with no Jeanie in it. Now we have a third time line with Natalie as the Genie in it, so what happened to the other Natalie that isn’t a Genie and the other Neil that was an engineer now. All three time line are going down the same track and there only enough space here for one of time line to be in it. Can you say train wreck between the three separate time line crashing into each other.
I see only two ways to deal with this mess and they are:
1. Do a card deck shuffle of the three realities into a new slightly compromised reality of the future.
2. Jeanie and Neil have to go back and do another time travel to undo this mess, because, we know there can’t be two Genie in the same Genie Bottle. Back to the Future ran into the same problem, they can’t go back to the future to solve this problem, but, back into the past where this time line spud into the alternate time line and fix that, because, this Jeanie bottle anymore.
So the question is, do they try to back out of this problem or do they try and convince the DJ Jean to become Jeanie now to try and fix the time line?
The presence of several scattered books could lead one to believe she spends a lot of time in the bottle, and does not yet have an owner
@Badger: Neil was an engineer and, assuming everything else runs similarly, Genie-Natalie probably likes to read. Being able to poof in any book you want would be s definite plus.
I can see Natalie not recognizing Jeannie, but not recognizing Neil? Just due to the surprise, or something else?
Probably because she hasn’t seen her male form for several years.
Also, Jeanie could be partially in the way.
So they’ve now created two other universes.
But they can’t have the same vessel can they?
Houston, We Have A Problem!
I wonder if Jean is her master
https://jeaniebottle.com/archives/comic/jeanie-bottle-75
https://jeaniebottle.com/archives/comic/jeanie-bottle-2
Excellent link FF!
Thanks.
Natalie, oh Natalie, Say have you met Natalie?
Natalie’s our favorite librarian!
She has eyes that men adore so,
And her torso, even more so!
It seems she’s also our newest Genie.
That’s what you get for time travelin’!
These poems are great! 🙂
Groucho’s best:
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Unless some other alteration happened to cause this, Jean might have to have the experience of having sex with Jeanie. But since experiences are just memories after the fact, false memories would hopefully do.
I can’t help but wonder if Jeanie can only travel through time due to her immense power. I’d think if any genie could time travel, it wold be done a lot more often in power plays—including during the Blue Djinn Arc—causing all sorts of temporal complexities. (Can anyone remember other time travel besides Jeanie & Neil during the Black & White Arc?)
The only time we’ve seen time travel used is when Jeanie was powered up by Blue’s possession (and she did the time travel against those beach bums *by accident*, even!), as well as after the whole Blue Djinn arc, when she inherited all the power he stole.
So I would guess that time travel isn’t possible without the immense power that landed in Jeanie’s lap.
> But since experiences are just memories after the fact, false memories would hopefully do.
I don’t think Jeanie can create false memories. The only mental alteration she’s been shown to be capable of (without being booted out of her genie body and turned into a “ghost” by the Genie Rules) is blunt manipulation of brain hormones and neurotransmitters. Adding memories is a LOT more complex than that, since doing it in a way that would bypass the “no mind control” Genie Rule would require physically manipulating the target’s connectome. There’s no way Jeanie knows how to do that, even *if* her immense power makes it theoretically possible.
Jeanie traveled back in time in I Dream of Technicolor, #383. The blue djinn didn’t get loose until #431. The two jerks get sent back to Omaha Beach in #433, so I suppose Jeanie could already be infected with blue djinninitis, but there don’t seem to be any symptoms yet.
Not quite. We *saw* Jeanie show up in the past on page #383. We have not yet seen her do the time travel that leads her there, since she could potentially leave on that trip from *any* point in the future.
As for the beach bums, the fact that they ended up in the past was actually CD’s first clue about Jeanie being possessed by Blue. She shouldn’t have been powerful enough to do that, and didn’t seem to think she’d done anything particularly drastic after she was scolded about it by Araceli (Page 435).
I have since thought abut a few other possibilities for sex to seemingly have happened w/ out sex happening. If sending a dream is different from false memories, maybe that could work. Or creating a solid illusion to do the deed. Technically making someone willing look like Jeanie might work, too; but even if possible—who would be willing?—I’m hoping that isn’t what’s done. If that is the problem that has to be fixed, there could be all sorts of ways out I couldn’t think of. One think I really like about this comic is how CD can come up with plot twists I couldn’t expect.
Also, now that time has changed again, there’s another opportunity to find out Ms. Eden’s identity. Maybe Genie Natalie knows it. No guarantee, of course, but I strongly suspect that it’s no coincidence that Neil & Jeanie came back in time to overlap with Andy and Sid. And Natalie always was smarter. Genies exist…. Ms. Eden… Hm. Given that the storyline ends in a couple months, there may be no time and it may go in a different direction. Still, I’m looking forward to that happening eventually.
Also, I wonder if this Natalie has a different name. Natalie isn’t the only name one can get from feminizing (the name) Neil. And a new name would be useful *if* she survives all the temporal revisions.
Well at least she’s not married to Biff Tannen.
… i hope
That would be a rather awful fate, indeed.
Seems like Rodge’s wish has been granted.
Natalie’s top is white. Isn’t that a sign that she’s married or committed to another genie?
Maybe? Jeanie’s top only turns white when Guano is present. Natalie appears to be alone.
It’s the color change that’s important. If Natalie were to become “married” to another genie, something else from her outfit would turn white while they’re near each other. Which, given that the only non-white she’s wearing is her pants, would be her pants. heh
Recall that Jeanie wore a somewhat similar outfit, with white strips of fabric, back during the time she was in Haji’s Palace.
Shoes. Genatte’s wearing white high heels. What color high heels does Neil normally wear, when he wears high heels?
Nat the genie doesn’t recognize her former self
I feel like the alteration might still be Jean’s confidence. Sure, people didn’t see him getting rejected. But that night is probably the basis of his ladies man persona, and his first time just said no and gave him a pity reputation. So the only way Jeanie could fix the timeline might be to actually sleep with Jean.
Of course in my head, there’d be a moment where she turns Neil into herself to try and weasel out of it, but that’s the limit for Neil.
I’m pretty sure Neil (as Natalie) caused this change. Remember, Natalie suddenly felt sick during the chess match. Which most of us are agreed signifies a change in the timeline occurring. Nothing notable happened around that moment in the chess match (like happened when Jeanie rejected Jean). So the change was most likely with the only others experiencing something different because Danny was distracted by a chess match – young-Neil and Zoey. More than likely, at the moment Natalie felt sick, young-Neil and Zoey finished a dance and shared a kiss, and changed from being high school acquaintances to a couple. (Insert band playing Johnny B Goode.)
It would also be a healthy dose of comeuppance for Neil. He’s been railing on jean all this time about avoiding making any universe-destroying changes to the timeline. By having them both responsible for screwing time up, they’ll be back on an equal footing when this is all over. Otherwise, Neil would always be able to berate Jean with “remember what you did when we went back in time to prom?” every time they get into a disagreement about doing what Jean wants or what Neil wants.
Well this went from bad to worse, wonder how this happened
“Oh god, oh god, we’re all gonna to die?”
Ok, here’s the problem with what people are assuming
If this is the Natalie from the bollox’d timeline, barring some fuck up of magic that the Genies may have done to her, she’s going to recognize Jeanie regardless of how long its been. She’s not going to forget the person that abandoned her, and left her trapped as a girl.
There’s a possibility that this Natalie could be a Neil that drifted away from Jean following Jean’s downward spiral so it could make sense that she wouldn’t recognize her older male self, but come on, we don’t change nearly that much in 5 years. Hell I had someone recognize me from high school that only knew me for one year, after an 11 year gap.
Only other issue i have with this being a Neil that found the bottle is the reason Jean got turned into a girl was because he wished for a Barbara Eden genie and it made him into a virtual lookalike, the same thing basically happened to that little girl -more or less- so why would it turn Neil into “Natalie?” since if we follow the rules established by the comic, he obviously wasn’t thinking about barbara eden or I Dream of Jenie in general when the lamp came into his possession.
hmmm -thinks- ok, gonna need a minute with this…..
Jean got turned into a girl was because he wished for a Barbara Eden genie, and it made him into a virtual lookalike
Not true. Jean got turned into Jeanie because when he opened an empty vessel, he had been fantasizing about Barbara Eden’s portrayal of Jeanie.
Well thats just splitting hairs, the effect was the same
to my knowledge there’s been nothing to say that handling a Genie Bottle automatically turns the holder into a female genie.
I don’t think becoming a female bottle genie is automatic, but it is more an inference based on the Bob Denver genie and the Blue Djinn from the TV show. There was also a comment on the strip referencing the Robin Williams genie from Aladdin at some point. Possibly it was the cat who watches over Melvin said something along the lines of there being a number of people turning into blue genies? As to why she doesn’t recognize Jeanie and Neil, there are too many unknowns to narrow it down at present.
Jean turned into Jeanie, because, that what he thought that the genie of this bottle should look like Barbra Eden and when he turned into a genie, he looked like Barbra Eden. The reason that we have so many blue genie is, because a lot of people were watching blue genie in the old TV shows were see blue genie and when they also turned into genie, they were also blue genie too. I Jean would have been thinking of a Mr. America type Genie when he picked up the Genie Bottle, then he would have been a male genie that looked like Mr. America instead of a female genie that look like Barbra Eden. Tom is referring to what Kazon said to Jeanie of why she a female genie and not a male genie. He also informed her that her core was also turned into a female genie and that it was permanent too and could never be changed either.
As was established by Kazom during Jeanie’s “training”, a human touching an empty Genie vessel turns into their personal ideal for what a genie is supposed to look like. Jean’s personal ideal was a bustier version of Barbara Eden’s Jeannie from IDOJ. Neil’s “ideal genie” is hardly guaranteed to be the same as Jean’s.
Maybe, since Neil is from the future, his concept of himself as a genie is Natalie, having already seen himself in that form?
Natalie the genie in one word–WOW
Agreed!
Well that confirms it’s not back to the future style time travel at least, but alternate universe style.
Time travel is going to a place and never getting back to where you were before. (They used to say that about dropping acid, come to think of it.)
See this? This is why you don’t mess with time.
Confusion to the Nth degree.
>SLAPS KNEE< HAHAHA!
Great. unexpected twist!
I'm not even going to speculate. So many juicy possibilities.
I will presume this is Genie Natalie (hmmm what to call her? Ah. of course), with at least some notional connection to Neil.
I am curious about two things:
Who is Genatte's Master, if she has one?
What are all those books about? They look modern, so not grimoires. She's not at a desk, she's not even taking notes, so possibly not in any sense technical. Might well be fiction.
Beyond that–Well played, CD! Good show!
@50sRefugee: “I will presume this is Genie Natalie.” Ref, you dork. “Natalie” is in the Characters list, so yeah. Next question: Where, exactly, is the bottle?
And, by the way, is Genatte a genie (and if so, how powerful is she)? Or is she just kept in the bottle as a kind of pet?
As CD would probably say, if he weren’t half away around the world right now, “You’ll just have to wait and see.” 🙂
@Robert: Yeah, that’s kinda why I only asked a couple of questions, rather than attempted to speculate. This is a wonderfully disruptive development. As the above discussions show, even the color of Genatte’s top may or may not be relevant. This is a strip we’ll be coming back to over and over as we learn more, and figure out which details were clues, and which were mere distractions.
I mean, I don’t even have any preferences as to what happens next, because I don’t know enough. It’s kind of a reverse Chekov’s gun situation, where something not obviously a gun gets fired unexpectedly. If done properly, our response will be, Oh! Of Course! Delicious story telling!
@50srefugee: Examining the background in the first panel indicates that the bottle might be in adult Natalie’s apartment from page 671, same wall color but not on the bookshelf. Also, this may not be the same bottle since the interior cushions and pillows are different colors and shapes (ref: page 24, 40 from the initial arc and 325, 327 from the I Dream of a General arc). These are minor inconsistencies and may mean absolutely nothing. Come to think of it, the bottle isn’t the same color blue, either.
And I agree with you, this is a wonderful turn of events and I’m looking forward to Genatte’s character development (although I might go with Natalya instead, or possibly Neala, a Gaelic variation).
It appears that both long-term Natalies got boob jobs, so I’m guessing Neal embraced his new self with an eye for improvement.
Compare today’s page and https://jeaniebottle.com/archives/comic/jeanie-bottle-675 with
https://jeaniebottle.com/archives/comic/jeanie-bottle-647 and https://jeaniebottle.com/archives/comic/jeanie-bottle-659
I think the intent is that as teenagers, neither Jeanie nor Natalie had yet fully grown into their adult proportions. We see Jeanie’s bust size shift a few times during the time travel story, as she goes from teenage to adult and then back.
Lets see. When Jeanie traded places with ole Blue she became the new dijin. She would have inherited his bottle or lamp leaving her bottle up for grabs. When Nattalie bought the bottle and opened it she became the bottles new Genie. Her top os white so her master is either Neil or Jeanie, but which one?
That would certainly solve the two genies in one bottle paradox. Jeanie actually has Blue’s old vessel while Natalie has this one. Considering Blue’s distain for “the form of a feeble bottle genie” (page 500), his actual vessel is probably a lamp, much like Guano’s (page 547). Also, while there is definitely a white top connection between bonded genies, it doesn’t appear to be an exclusive trait. Lahab and Jeanie both wore white during the I Dream of an Escape arc (and Jeanie’s was quite interesting).
We don’t know that Jeanie ended up take the Blue Djinn old totem. We knew that Jeanie retook her old body back after she displaced the Blue Djinn from both her own body and from her original totem or bottle, that all we know about this interaction and power struggle over who got Jeanie body and who ended up having Jeannie body in the end.
The reason that we have another Genie in Jeanie bottle or totem, there two possible reason that that could happen that we currently know about right now and they are:
1. We are dealing with two parallel universes running side by side and they cross at this point. In one of those universes Jeanie the Genie of the bottle and in the other universe Natalie the Genie of this bottle.
2. We have one universe, but, we have two time lines and in one of them Jeanie the Genie and in the other time line Natalie is the Genie.
We are currently dealing with three time line now.
1. In the first time line or the original time line, Jeanie is the Genie of the Bottle.
2. In the second time line, there isn’t any Genie of the Bottle being created or it empty and Natalie has the bottle.
3, In the third time line, Natalie is the Genie of the Bottle now.
This is what we know so far and that it.
Natalie’s top is very similar to Jeanie’s top in the bonding ceremony. panel 455. I wonder if Natalie has been bonded?
If you look closely, you’ll see that the white color’s association with bonding is that an existing piece of clothing that isn’t white *changes* to white when bonded genies are near each other. While genies can also just wear white as part of something entirely different, as seen when Jeanie was helping with the Hubun Jadid ceremony while she was in Haji’s Palace.
Genie Nat may go back with them to try and sort out the time line.
If successful Neil may end up with one bottle and two Genies, one of which is himself
Now *that’d* be fun!
maybe maybe not can’t help think of time travel on Phineas and Ferb how future Cadance just pop out of existence after going back in time and fixing the time line
And we have a Genie Nat header 🙂