Jean AKA Jeannie AKA Jeanie is a film, book, and magazine reviewer for a national magazine. Most of Jean’s work is done through email, which means he doesn't have to go into the office.
On a trip to find a gift for his girlfriend, Jean found an empty Genie Bottle. Upon picking up this bottle, Jean became the bottle’s new genie-powered occupant. Not only was Jean turned into a genie, but the bottle turned him into what he believed a genie of the bottle should look like. Which, due to his fascination with a classic 60s TV show, turned him into a busty blonde woman.
A junior engineer working for a small engineering firm in Cocoa Beach. The firm focuses mostly on NASA projects.
Neil is Jean’s best friend. When Jean was turned into a genie, Neil became Jeanie’s master.
Well this won’t work out for Jean for a 1000 reasons But Neil with the girl he likes stop listening to Jean and stand up for yourself or look her up when you go home to your timeline.
Like I have said, Jean want to do something that he has absolutely no business doing and now he want to pull Neil into this mess too. Jean wants to do the same thing to Jeanie that Garcia wanted to do to Jeanie. The guy that Jeanie called a jerk. Remember that Jeanie only wanted to go to the school prom. Jeanie did not remember that Jean wanted to take her to a hotel room afterward. Jeanie isn’t looking to get screwed by her younger self and has absolutely no interest in doing that or is even thinking that way. This is why the younger teen Jean could not get a date without Jeanie coming back in time to be his date. This is that time line that everybody say doesn’t exist, but, got changed because, of Jeanie time travel so that nobody remembers it, because, it didn’t happen. Now we know, that Jeanie is going to have to scrub memories of both Jean and Neil so that everything lines up to what they remembered happened, happened the way that they remembering that it happened. At least in there memories anyway.
Jeanie may poof up a teenage Mary (from The Melvin Chronicles) to deflect teenage Jean.
Afterall, Clarence had to come from somewhere 🙂
(And yes I realise timeline is not exactly right but it is close)
Jeanie was 24 year in her time line and they jumped 6 or years into the past. Clarence is 15 or 16 year in there present that line up with Jeanie present before thaey jumped into the past in Cincinnati in Ohio or the Midwest of the United States. So Mary is roughly 9 year older than these teen Jean and Neil are right now. So Jeanie would have to pull Mary from the past of 9 years and probably from state of California on the other side of the United States to get her there for this meeting with Jean, where she is going to the Southeil all Girls school for girls. No, not likely to have happened like that.
Both younger Jean and Neil can’t remember, because, Jeanie is going to have to scrub there memories as to what happened during and immediately after the prom, because, there is going to be one heck of a screw up coming that Jeanie need to straightened out here. I can see it in my mind as to what has to be coming down now, Jeanie doing the Genie blink, will be the only way to straighten this mess out.
Teen Jean is as big of a jerk as Garcia is, if not a bigger jerk than he is. If Jeanie want to salvage her friendship with Neil, she going to have to erase both Jean and Neil memories. Because, I don’t even see Neil staying around Jean after this fiasco and Neil parents jumping on Neil too.
In the previous time line that not there, Jean didn’t go to the prom and Neil either went with Zoe or he didn’t go either. Jean is still friends with Neil and that time line created this time line, because, he went to Cocoa Beach to be with his friend Neil. Then he picked up the Jeanie bottle and became a female genie. Then came back in time and created this time that we are currently in right now.
So what is Jeanie going to do here?
1. If Jeanie doesn’t wipe both Jean and Neil memories out and put in false memories in there place, Jean doesn’t doesn’t go to Cocoa Beach, because, he is no longer Neil friend and so he doesn’t pick up the Genie Bottle and become of female genie. Which will wipe out this time line that we are currently in right now.
2. Like Garcia, Jean is a Jerk and does Jeanie find both of them revolting around as to what they intended to do to her and/or does she also value her friendship with Neil enough that she will choose to stay female genie, creating the stable time loop that everybody says that we have here?
If Jeanie chooses the first choice, then we go into another time loop of a different kind altogether and if Jeanie choose the second choice, then we have a stable time here nothing basically changes or any changes are just minor chances only, but, basically everything is more or less the same here.
I was just thinking that since Jeanie is a Genie, if CD Rudd wanted to get real creative with this, he could have Jeanie collapse the time line or send it back to the original time line where Jean didn’t go to the prom in an attempt to save her friend with Neil. She does save there friendship, but, Jean become a dirty old man and basically a bum and then we come back from that time line to this point in time. Once we back to this point again, then Jeanie choose to go in the other direction down this time line and then wipes everybody memories so they remember what she want them to remember including and expecially the young Jean.
Called it… he was trying to track down the receptionist that stood him up.
And I am beginning to agree that there is some sort of paradox/alterative time stream happening here. Neil would definitely have remembered spending money on the hotel rooms since that would have been a huge expense on his emergency credit card that he would have had to explain to his parents. Also, Jeanie may be suffering from TDS (Teen Delusionary Syndrome) but this is far from spending all day dealing with Jean’s tux.
@HKMaly: I agree with this “Jeanie shouldn’t have power to remove someone’s memories.” Most likely this would fall under the “a human’s will is its own” rule (page 649, panel 5). Kazom made it very clear that trying to force choices (which is what I think altering their memories would do) would have unknown and horrific consequences. Take away the memories and you are forcing them down a path of your choosing, not theirs.
I suppose it would all depend on how Jeanie were to try to do that memory cleaning process. If Jeanie were to try do a forced entry blow the walls down type of memory remove or altering, then your probably right that she can’t do that or it violate some genie rules that keep genie’s from doing things like that.
But, I am sure that there are ways to sneak or slip around the rule here or there. The genie rules are a general guide line for genie to follow, it doesn’t mean they can’t cheat or bend the rules occasionally. Remember the Greek Sea Captain, he didn’t want to become a female and be a sex crazed female at that. Remember the Blew Dijon, Jeanie both made her a female mortal baby girl and striped her of her past memories too. What Genies can’t do is to force one person to have to accept somebody else as there boyfriend or girlfriend. Remember Jeanie tried to force some girl to take Melvin as her boyfriend and she got dis-embodies and her body became Melvin girlfriend. But, taking someone memories away, that an entirely different matter or subject.
I would say that blocking memories of a specific item would be banned, but there’s probably wiggle room in terms of wiping the entire past X hours—e.g. Teen Jean wakes up the next morning thinking “I’m too hungover to remember anything about last night, but given that I’m in a hotel room naked, and the girl left her underwear behind, it must have been a wild night!”
I don’t think Jean intentionally “stripped” baby blue of her memories. It’s just that a baby doesn’t have the capacity for those memories. The little sailor girl looked happy with her stuffed bunny because she was a little girl with a stuffed bunny. Dump a five gallon bucket into a shot glass and everything that doesn’t fit gets lost. Teenybopper Jean and Neil may have lost something in the transition but teens are close enough to adults (in everything except judgement) that it hasn’t been noticeable. It’s possible those memories would be restored if the transformation was reversed but we haven’t seen any examples to judge from.
@Pilgrim: Interesting. So you are suggesting that it’s possible they don’t remember all the details of prom night because of the shot glass theory? That the finer details are momentarily “lost” because their teenaged brains cannot hold all their adult memories and their teen memories. FIFO memory dump, the older data (prom night) has been flushed by their at present memories. If that’s the case it may be impossible for them to screw up the time line because they don’t remember the time line.
I wonder if being stood up will affect the random stranger.. how will that experience shape him? Will he brush it off or will it impact his psyche… can one ordinary man have any impact to the time line?
Right so Jean and Neil traveled back in time given what they’ve done and what could happen, dose that make this a separate timeline from the original or is it still one thing consistent thing, meaning when they go back to their present it wouldn’t have affected anything, or is it some loop where all the Jeans find the bottle and all go back and do this arc at some point, I get it’s time travel and it’s not really meant to make sense but this is fun so eh.
There are several possible choices here as to the time travel there doing and there isn’t any right answer here and they are:
1. Most of the people here say, we have a stable time loop and everything going to repeat itself over and over again none stop.
The problem with theory is, they don’t tell you how it got started in the first place and it had to start somewhere.
2. I take the position that this time loop had to have a starting point somewhere or someplace. If it had a starting place thin it can go haywire or off track and generally collapse in on it self if something doesn’t go right. I take the position that the present time line is sitting on the previous time line and most of them are similar to each other, but, not exactly the same either. I take the position that anything the screw up the Neil Jean friendship or Neil moving to Cocoa Beach to take that job as an engineer, then Jean will not become Jeanie, anything else, will just change some of the detail of what happened into the new reality that they remembered happening. Jean trying to draw Neil into doing the same thing that he want to do with Jeanie, is protentually a friendship destroying event. Neil will end up being humiliated by what Jean is trying to do here. He will be in the dog house with his parents for trying to do this and they will probably forbid him to ever have anything more to do with Jean too, because, that what I would do if I was Neil parents. Beside, who said that Neil came back in the previous time line with Jeanie. We know that Jeanie came back, because, Jean remembers the blond exchange girl, but, nobody said anything about her having a friend with her before either. So there are some minor differences between this time line and the last time line.
Hotels require id as well as a valid credit card, and I’m not sure major ones, like “the most exclusive hotel in Cincinnati,” would rent to persons under 21. Not without calling Dad to find out if Neil was legitimately using that credit card. Not to mention that the credit limit on an emergency card might be enough for a bus ticket home, but not for two rack rate rooms in a fancy hotel. Without reservations and no notice, hotels charge their max rate.
I just spent a couple of hours yesterday trying to book a room six weeks out in a small city in the East. Ended up at a different hotel than the one with the meeting…
It’s been a few years since I was in Cinti (not “Cincy”), where I stayed at the Netherland Hilton. I don’t recall _any_ hotel there being characterizeable as “exclusive.”. Downtown was going downhill; the most famous 5-star restaurant there had gone out of business. It was not so easy to find a good place to get dinner. Oh, and a fancy restaurant before the prom was a good way to impress one’s date–except that establishments that served liquor would not always allow underage persons to dine alone, without adults present. Does Jean have a fake id? He doesn’t have a credit card…
Well this won’t work out for Jean for a 1000 reasons But Neil with the girl he likes stop listening to Jean and stand up for yourself or look her up when you go home to your timeline.
Waitaminute. Are Jean and Jeanie going to lose their virginities to each other?
That seems to be Teen Jean’s plan. How Natalie and Jeanie are going to react to that is still up for grabs…
Kinda gives new meaning to the phrase “go screw yourself”.
Pregnacy would be …interesting, to say at least.
Like I have said, Jean want to do something that he has absolutely no business doing and now he want to pull Neil into this mess too. Jean wants to do the same thing to Jeanie that Garcia wanted to do to Jeanie. The guy that Jeanie called a jerk. Remember that Jeanie only wanted to go to the school prom. Jeanie did not remember that Jean wanted to take her to a hotel room afterward. Jeanie isn’t looking to get screwed by her younger self and has absolutely no interest in doing that or is even thinking that way. This is why the younger teen Jean could not get a date without Jeanie coming back in time to be his date. This is that time line that everybody say doesn’t exist, but, got changed because, of Jeanie time travel so that nobody remembers it, because, it didn’t happen. Now we know, that Jeanie is going to have to scrub memories of both Jean and Neil so that everything lines up to what they remembered happened, happened the way that they remembering that it happened. At least in there memories anyway.
Jeanie may poof up a teenage Mary (from The Melvin Chronicles) to deflect teenage Jean.
Afterall, Clarence had to come from somewhere 🙂
(And yes I realise timeline is not exactly right but it is close)
Jeanie was 24 year in her time line and they jumped 6 or years into the past. Clarence is 15 or 16 year in there present that line up with Jeanie present before thaey jumped into the past in Cincinnati in Ohio or the Midwest of the United States. So Mary is roughly 9 year older than these teen Jean and Neil are right now. So Jeanie would have to pull Mary from the past of 9 years and probably from state of California on the other side of the United States to get her there for this meeting with Jean, where she is going to the Southeil all Girls school for girls. No, not likely to have happened like that.
Yet Jean doesn’t recall any of his prom night choices would come in handy for them right about now.
Both younger Jean and Neil can’t remember, because, Jeanie is going to have to scrub there memories as to what happened during and immediately after the prom, because, there is going to be one heck of a screw up coming that Jeanie need to straightened out here. I can see it in my mind as to what has to be coming down now, Jeanie doing the Genie blink, will be the only way to straighten this mess out.
Teen Jean is as big of a jerk as Garcia is, if not a bigger jerk than he is. If Jeanie want to salvage her friendship with Neil, she going to have to erase both Jean and Neil memories. Because, I don’t even see Neil staying around Jean after this fiasco and Neil parents jumping on Neil too.
In the previous time line that not there, Jean didn’t go to the prom and Neil either went with Zoe or he didn’t go either. Jean is still friends with Neil and that time line created this time line, because, he went to Cocoa Beach to be with his friend Neil. Then he picked up the Jeanie bottle and became a female genie. Then came back in time and created this time that we are currently in right now.
So what is Jeanie going to do here?
1. If Jeanie doesn’t wipe both Jean and Neil memories out and put in false memories in there place, Jean doesn’t doesn’t go to Cocoa Beach, because, he is no longer Neil friend and so he doesn’t pick up the Genie Bottle and become of female genie. Which will wipe out this time line that we are currently in right now.
2. Like Garcia, Jean is a Jerk and does Jeanie find both of them revolting around as to what they intended to do to her and/or does she also value her friendship with Neil enough that she will choose to stay female genie, creating the stable time loop that everybody says that we have here?
If Jeanie chooses the first choice, then we go into another time loop of a different kind altogether and if Jeanie choose the second choice, then we have a stable time here nothing basically changes or any changes are just minor chances only, but, basically everything is more or less the same here.
I was just thinking that since Jeanie is a Genie, if CD Rudd wanted to get real creative with this, he could have Jeanie collapse the time line or send it back to the original time line where Jean didn’t go to the prom in an attempt to save her friend with Neil. She does save there friendship, but, Jean become a dirty old man and basically a bum and then we come back from that time line to this point in time. Once we back to this point again, then Jeanie choose to go in the other direction down this time line and then wipes everybody memories so they remember what she want them to remember including and expecially the young Jean.
Called it… he was trying to track down the receptionist that stood him up.
And I am beginning to agree that there is some sort of paradox/alterative time stream happening here. Neil would definitely have remembered spending money on the hotel rooms since that would have been a huge expense on his emergency credit card that he would have had to explain to his parents. Also, Jeanie may be suffering from TDS (Teen Delusionary Syndrome) but this is far from spending all day dealing with Jean’s tux.
This doesn’t take long. The part with dealing with Jean’s tux may still happen.
But yes, it’s starting to look weird … however, Jeanie shouldn’t have power to remove someone’s memories …
@HKMaly: I agree with this “Jeanie shouldn’t have power to remove someone’s memories.” Most likely this would fall under the “a human’s will is its own” rule (page 649, panel 5). Kazom made it very clear that trying to force choices (which is what I think altering their memories would do) would have unknown and horrific consequences. Take away the memories and you are forcing them down a path of your choosing, not theirs.
I suppose it would all depend on how Jeanie were to try to do that memory cleaning process. If Jeanie were to try do a forced entry blow the walls down type of memory remove or altering, then your probably right that she can’t do that or it violate some genie rules that keep genie’s from doing things like that.
But, I am sure that there are ways to sneak or slip around the rule here or there. The genie rules are a general guide line for genie to follow, it doesn’t mean they can’t cheat or bend the rules occasionally. Remember the Greek Sea Captain, he didn’t want to become a female and be a sex crazed female at that. Remember the Blew Dijon, Jeanie both made her a female mortal baby girl and striped her of her past memories too. What Genies can’t do is to force one person to have to accept somebody else as there boyfriend or girlfriend. Remember Jeanie tried to force some girl to take Melvin as her boyfriend and she got dis-embodies and her body became Melvin girlfriend. But, taking someone memories away, that an entirely different matter or subject.
I would say that blocking memories of a specific item would be banned, but there’s probably wiggle room in terms of wiping the entire past X hours—e.g. Teen Jean wakes up the next morning thinking “I’m too hungover to remember anything about last night, but given that I’m in a hotel room naked, and the girl left her underwear behind, it must have been a wild night!”
I don’t think Jean intentionally “stripped” baby blue of her memories. It’s just that a baby doesn’t have the capacity for those memories. The little sailor girl looked happy with her stuffed bunny because she was a little girl with a stuffed bunny. Dump a five gallon bucket into a shot glass and everything that doesn’t fit gets lost. Teenybopper Jean and Neil may have lost something in the transition but teens are close enough to adults (in everything except judgement) that it hasn’t been noticeable. It’s possible those memories would be restored if the transformation was reversed but we haven’t seen any examples to judge from.
@Pilgrim: Interesting. So you are suggesting that it’s possible they don’t remember all the details of prom night because of the shot glass theory? That the finer details are momentarily “lost” because their teenaged brains cannot hold all their adult memories and their teen memories. FIFO memory dump, the older data (prom night) has been flushed by their at present memories. If that’s the case it may be impossible for them to screw up the time line because they don’t remember the time line.
In the present day, he probably still owes him for the room.
I wonder if being stood up will affect the random stranger.. how will that experience shape him? Will he brush it off or will it impact his psyche… can one ordinary man have any impact to the time line?
Not likely. He’s probably had that happen plenty of times.
Right so Jean and Neil traveled back in time given what they’ve done and what could happen, dose that make this a separate timeline from the original or is it still one thing consistent thing, meaning when they go back to their present it wouldn’t have affected anything, or is it some loop where all the Jeans find the bottle and all go back and do this arc at some point, I get it’s time travel and it’s not really meant to make sense but this is fun so eh.
There are several possible choices here as to the time travel there doing and there isn’t any right answer here and they are:
1. Most of the people here say, we have a stable time loop and everything going to repeat itself over and over again none stop.
The problem with theory is, they don’t tell you how it got started in the first place and it had to start somewhere.
2. I take the position that this time loop had to have a starting point somewhere or someplace. If it had a starting place thin it can go haywire or off track and generally collapse in on it self if something doesn’t go right. I take the position that the present time line is sitting on the previous time line and most of them are similar to each other, but, not exactly the same either. I take the position that anything the screw up the Neil Jean friendship or Neil moving to Cocoa Beach to take that job as an engineer, then Jean will not become Jeanie, anything else, will just change some of the detail of what happened into the new reality that they remembered happening. Jean trying to draw Neil into doing the same thing that he want to do with Jeanie, is protentually a friendship destroying event. Neil will end up being humiliated by what Jean is trying to do here. He will be in the dog house with his parents for trying to do this and they will probably forbid him to ever have anything more to do with Jean too, because, that what I would do if I was Neil parents. Beside, who said that Neil came back in the previous time line with Jeanie. We know that Jeanie came back, because, Jean remembers the blond exchange girl, but, nobody said anything about her having a friend with her before either. So there are some minor differences between this time line and the last time line.
Hotels require id as well as a valid credit card, and I’m not sure major ones, like “the most exclusive hotel in Cincinnati,” would rent to persons under 21. Not without calling Dad to find out if Neil was legitimately using that credit card. Not to mention that the credit limit on an emergency card might be enough for a bus ticket home, but not for two rack rate rooms in a fancy hotel. Without reservations and no notice, hotels charge their max rate.
I just spent a couple of hours yesterday trying to book a room six weeks out in a small city in the East. Ended up at a different hotel than the one with the meeting…
It’s been a few years since I was in Cinti (not “Cincy”), where I stayed at the Netherland Hilton. I don’t recall _any_ hotel there being characterizeable as “exclusive.”. Downtown was going downhill; the most famous 5-star restaurant there had gone out of business. It was not so easy to find a good place to get dinner. Oh, and a fancy restaurant before the prom was a good way to impress one’s date–except that establishments that served liquor would not always allow underage persons to dine alone, without adults present. Does Jean have a fake id? He doesn’t have a credit card…
Hey if he is mad now wait till he gets Jean room bill.