Jeanie Bottle 412
Robert is away, so I get to post this week’s comic.
Oh, and Happy 2017!
EDIT: Robert’s back! This page is now properly copy-edited.
Robert is away, so I get to post this week’s comic.
Oh, and Happy 2017!
EDIT: Robert’s back! This page is now properly copy-edited.
This has to be one of the funniest conversations to happen in this comic so far!
I REALLY want to see what happens next.
I doubt that Jeanie even remembers the name of a quarter of the women they are talking about.
I’m actually surprised to hear Jean had game. I always thought he was extremely lucky to have Belle.
We haven’t seen Jean in true Lothario mode, since she’s always had female hormones (or genie magic, or whatever her body is made of, now) flowing through her veins. It probably affects her in ways we may never fully appreciate.
If that’s the case, i don’t understand why Jean is so attached to Belle, unless he seriously thought she was “The one”.
Upon hearing this, I wonder, why would Jean care to keep “her” boyfriend status with Belle when “she’s” so open to switching between different girls? Belle’s “her” favourite or is Belle the only piece of meat that Jean can ever get now since “her” djinncation?
Yeah, it always bothered me that Jean doesn’t want to tell Belle about her transformation, but doesn’t want to let her move on either.
That’s simple. Jean is self-centered and a narcissist. He may not be able to have a relationship with Belle any more, but he’s too selfish to let her go.
And now we’re finding out that he’s been hopping in the sack with anything that moves. Gee, what a surprise. Not.
Plus I think Jeanie didn’t realize right away that the genie situation was real and permanent. She wanted to be sure that if she became Jean again, he would still have his girlfriend. But I’m afraid that ship’s long since sailed.
Philanderer*
Philander is a verb. Philanderer is one who philanders. 😉
Hope linking Wiktionary isn’t considered spam. Yes, it can be a noun.
But not in this case. “Philanderer” is the appropriate word.
“Philander” would be the action: “he engaged in a philander.”
I may or may not have missed that, had I been at home and doing a full copy edit check, rather than doing one over chat with CD Rudd while on vacation. You’re right that it’s the incorrect word, so I’ll fix it ASAP.
Robert, you’re an angel to be doing this on your vacation! Now, go have some fun! Scat!
Actually, I just got home today. My vacation is over and done with. Sadly, the cold I caught on the last day is not…
I love how in the last panel Jeanie is like, “yeah, good times.”
He slept with a girl to get to her Dad?
Wow… That’s not something you hear often! I can’t even imagine why…
I kinda saw this little conference coming. What with Jean’s personality! I can’t wait to see where it goes. And to see how Rodge is holding up with his private conversation with the boss!
After this wonderful week of daily updates, I have been spoiled! I can feel the comic DTs coming on as I think about the empty useless week ahead, until the next chapter!
Jean’s bisexual? Now THAT is an interesting plot twist!
I think you’re reading a bit too much into that line…
too bad. I think it’s an unexpected twist
Yeah, I did not get that vibe either. It felt like he wanted to get close to her Father for another reason, like for a job, or a scoop, or something like that.
Though, you never know. We have to see how CD plays it.
Jean is definitely attached to Belle, but exactly how is he attached? It may be that Belle presented the first real challenge to his naturally charming ways–or perhaps unnaturally charming ways. I’d bet Jean was always the dumper, not the dumpee. Perhaps Jean was really beginning to develop his first really mature relationship with Belle when he got genie-fied.
Quite awhile ago I made a fanpic of Belle as a pole dancer, a fate I though was fairly predictable considering what Jean’s done to poor Neil. But when Jean found out Belle was dating other men, she wasn’t angry, she was either heartbroken or crestfallen, maybe both–the first being a blow to his feelings for Belle, the second being the questioning of his status as the guy who can get any girl and keep her.
It is possible Jean might learn from this experience. And it is possible that a pig will fly, at least in a universe with genies and witches with real magic.
However, I think it’s more possible that “Jean’s fiancee” will join in a scheme to get back at “Jean” given how pissed Jeanie is at Rodge’s behavior and, of course, how much fun it will be. Would Jeanie nix that idea because it cold harm his/her professional reputation, maybe lose work? Again, watch the skies for those flying pigs.
You know, I don’t think I’m the only one who has trouble picking out the correct pronoun for Jean/Jeanie. How about inventing some new ones for this forum, just for Jean/Jeanie?
Nominative: jee, as in “Jee isn’t so much stupid as thoughtless.”
Possessive: jer, jers, as in “Jer motiviations are contradictory. Why does jee keep writing as a job? Jee’s a genie now, she doesn’t really need money at all.” I thought about “jis” but…
Objective: jer, as in “Seeing Belle kissing a man really disturbed jer” I modeled it on “her” instead of “him” because “jim” would have all you Trekkies wondering when Captain Kirk beamed into the strip.
The problem goes away when you attach the pronouns to the physical anatomy, as proper grammar demands–even if that requires a mid-sentence switch: “She is not dismayed to hear the girls complain about his exploits.” In a very real sense, Jean and Jeanie are two separate people, and both deserve their own pronouns.
Insulting to a transgender person.
Currently, as I understand it, it is correct to use “they” when standard gender pronouns don’t fit, or you’re not sure which gender pronoun to use and don’t wish to offend. Or the person being referred to prefers to not use gender pronouns.
Or i can not give a crap and use whatever pronouns i want or just he or she depending on anatomy
@Flindixon: You can be a bigot if you want, sure.
@Joe So long as he applies said attitude towards fictional characters only, I think we can grant some leway. If he starts doing it to real people then I will side with you
That… Only really works if you know a person, and even then, it won’t make much sense when using it unless the people you’re talking to know the person as well. In this case, it’d work, I guess, since pretty much everyone commenting on this comic would quickly catch on to whom it was referring, but it’s still awkward and forced. Unless Jeanie/Jean in-comic states what they want to be addressed as full-time, I’ll continue to use female pronouns for Jeanie, and male for Jean, with the occasional they/them/their when talking about both forms.
@Amber Thompson: In that case, I’d refer to the individual in question as the gender they are transitioning to, so long as I either know them enough to know that much, or can judge by appearance.
Who wants to bet Jean asks them how good he was in the sack?
From the last panel Jean is looking mighty proud of himself.
Which give us a whole new view of Jean and why as Jeanie she didn’t seem to have any problem doing a sexual number on Neil after Belle said that Neil was better in bed that Jean was. Jeanie had something to prove to herself and/or make another conquest too. All this, before reason re-entered Jeanie head and she turned away from the Idea. If she had done it, she may have decided that she actually like it and would have considered doing it again. The idea may come up again, if Belle show up and Jeanie in the bed room with Rodger and Belle while she get it on with Rodger, alias Jean.
To be consistent with the Rodge of I Dream of Jeannie, Rodge will never get any, and deservedly so unless our Rodge cleans up his act with women. What I see down the road if we ever get that far is Jean realizing he/she is in love with Belle and Neil.
I can see Rodge getting together with Araceli, since they have one important virtue in common: loving Caley. Maybe something will happen to Caley’s parents…hey, if this was a Disney production, they’d be dead already.
Jeanie was not in her right head when she went after Neil. She would have to change a lot to do him I would think.
Or maybe super super super horny. For magic reasons or some crap like that.
Jeanie is a bottle-genie, who are stated to want to please their masters. She’s pretty successfully avoided that with Neil–but for the most part, Neil hasn’t articulated any desires or wishes, which lets her off the hook.
He did get angry with her once, and she immediately submitted, despite the apparent power imbalance. And she has rewarded him with not at all manly hugs a time or two, almost reflexively. I strongly suspect that if Neil were just a hair more dominant, or even less of a nebbish, Jeanie would find herself falling in love with him–which I personally would love to watch.
As to Rodge, I think Jeanie made him like Jean in more than appearance. Distasteful though it seems, Jean’s approach to attractive women worked, obviously.
Todd… you seem to be mis-remembering Roger from IDoJ. Rog was a *player*! Always going out on dates, having the girls come back to his pad, always on the make. Dude had a different girl interest every episode or so. From the IMBd bio of Roger Healey:: Roger Healey, is a US Army captain assigned to NASA working at Cape Kennedy as both a member of the ground crew and training to be an astronaut. He is a very single bachelor living in Cocoa Beach, Florida dating a different girl every night.
@zafnak: To be fair: circumstances probably play a big role. Times change. Roger Healey in IDoJ was an astronaut in the 1960s, thus automatically giving him the approximate sex appeal quotient of a multimillionaire rock star. Whereas our Rodge is a nobody junior engineer at a contractor firm in 2016. Huge difference there. If the IDoJ Roger was around today, in an average job, he wouldn’t have nearly the same success rate.
True. But Todd was saying to be consistent with IDoJ’s Roger. That, to me, implied Todd thought that that he never got any, which *clearly* was not the case LOL.
SAFE! is this when Jeanie mentions being “Jean’s cousin”?
After they heard the word fiance, the “cousin” story went out the window!
Unless someone that knows Jeanie as Jean’s cousin shows up.
Never thought of the whole “genie girl” thing as revenge for bad behavior before…
I’ve assumed that pretty much from the start.
And we learn again how much of a scumbag Jean actually is.
And a plotting scumbag, none the less. Whodathunkit?
And we learn again how easily women can be tricked into bed by someone they want to be in bed with. Not that Jean wasn’t scum, mind, but these are all attractive, professional women who could pick and choose their bedmates. They chose Jean.
And apparently, Jean “promised” at least some of them something. What was it? Anything other than marriage? What does that make them?
@50srefuge:
That sounds extremely sexist of you. This only proves that Jean is a liar and a pig.
Are women then not responsible for their own sexuality?
I’d say it makes them gullible if they believed whatever lies Jean told, unless Jean is way more competent than I can imagine.
ijuin: Oh, indeed, gullible. I do want to hear what Jean offered.
But I believe that deep down, what these girls saw was a confident, handsome guy with a silver tongue, a bit of a bad boy, who came across as someone with status in their field. (This very gathering in his honor validates the status claim.) Everything else was conscience salve.
They had sex with him because they wanted to, because they thought he was sexy. And I don’t think that’s any more “sexist” than saying that Jean found them sexy in turn.
Exactly. They probably made up their minds to sleep with him before he even opened his mouth. Or were strongly considering it. Most women I have heard talk about this, have said they do as much. And then they let the guy either talk them into or out or it.
A lot of guys will lie their ass off or at least bend the truth a bit in order to push them in the right direction. So he isn’t too far from normal. Just a bit horndogish.
Though it sounds like he is the type to say anything he needs to, or that they want to hear. And to take advantage of girls that way. And then to move on to the next girl. Which is a bit crappy.
And to be fair to Jean, he has a good job with a steady income, he’s not too bad looking, and is respected enough in the field they are in to earn a award. So he had to be tempting to them in the first place.
This is where Jeanie is releaved, surprised and not sure how she should respond all at the same time.
Releaved, because, she thought they all knew she was a Genie.
Surprised, because, she thought they were coming after her, but, from there position, they saw another foolish girl being taken by Jean again and they were trying to warn her of Jean.
Not share how to respond to there desire to protect her from Jean. She can’t claim to have been Jean. She support what he did, being girl form now. She can’t just blow out what there say and she going to have to agree with them on some level to the bestial way that Jean acting or blow her cover story.
About Belle, she appears to be more of a challenge to Jean than most of those other girls and maybe in his own selfish, he even kind of loves her even. But, even if he does love her on that level, Jean is still self-centered Jerk that will serve himself first before her serve other people if he serve them at all. Also remember that Belle is the last girl that he had, before he became a she. Belle is basically the last vestiges of him being able to act like a guy and doing some guy thing to girl and is proof to himself in his mind that he a guy. I have run into that kind of guy who thing of girl as some one to use and throw away and then get the next one. That who Jean is, he thinks that make him a man, but, what it really make him, is some low life scum.
The question it, how is Jeanie going to respond to these other women. Will she gloat about it after her former self and try amp or will she does she see it like a girl and is horrified by some mans activities on a women. Then there the third possibility too. He/She does the first internally and does the second one externally to act like a girl so she can keel her secrete, secrete.
Then there the other part of what Jean boss is going to tell Jean (Alias Rodge). That going to be interesting too. After the boss does a man on man number of Jean and Rodge fines out stuff he not suppose to know, but, is reviled to him.
When everything start to settle down and everything look like it going to be OK, in walks Belle and everything blow up in everybody faces. Belle take Jean to bed and those girls come running to Jeanie’s comfort and defense and another piece of of Jean get ripped away and Jean become more a girl by the name of Jeanie than a guy like Jean.
That will basically the end of this arc after that, because, that will be the climax of this arc.
Awww man…
I mean, yeah, I kinda figured they didn’t really know what was going on here, but I gotta admit that I was hoping they did.
Re: Panel 3 – I’m surprised that Jean limited himself to the single women. Or maybe she just doesn’t know.
To be honest I’m confused. Jean has gone from sympathetic to completely unlikeable if this is true- which I have my doubts. It just doesn’t seem believable. I fear I might be too innocent but… it just seems so unlikely.
There two thinks you have to keep in mind when it comes to Jean and Girls.
1,The more that Jean uses girls like that, the bigger the head or eagle that Jean will develop and more unlikable to women that Jean will become, even on a first time impression even. One of Jean problem is that he see himself the way use to be and very popular too, while most of the other girls are going to increasing see him as the jerk that he is. Jean eagle won’t let him see condition and he will continue to lie to himself, while fewer and fewer girls fall into his web.
2. She said, that most of these women have manipulated, tricked and even gone to bed with Jean. So most of these women who are here, will probably Hat Jean intently and despise him as a person and they will talk and gosh up about Jean and those rumor which are mostly fact, are probably spread all over the place.
You never notice Jean is a self centered jerk before?
I would not say he is totally unlikable though. He is probably a lot of fun if you want to do what he wants to do.
Interesting. I had always pegged Jean as the type who talked big and tried to chase the girls a lot, but never actually succeeded in catching any.
Well, apparently he had to lie a lot to manage it. Maybe he claimed he was filthy rich, or a Pulitzer prize winner or something. Or just got them drunk first.
Testimony is that “He’s not above telling you lies”. That’s a far cry from depending on lying.
(And I bet analysis of the tapes would show that in some cases, he didn’t quite lie, he just didn’t correct mistaken assumptions.)
The one girl that worries me is Olive Green. Her claim that he used her to get to her Father makes me think Jean was talking marriage–then backed out of both the marriage and the business deal. Or something like that.
I’m sorry to whoever did the 4th panel, but why are there bags under Jean’s eyes?
So wait, how is that “Jeannie’s secret” that the girls revealed and not “Jean’s secret”.
Good question. Unless they all went along with a similar fiction to cover their own affairs with Jean. But even that seems a bit off kilter.
50srefugee, I am thirty years old. I am a gentleman.
I begin to wonder if your alias is named for being a refugee from the age when sexism was more prevalent.
I agree with you on just one of your assumptions: that we know half the story.
The rest of your assumptions have no evidence save your sexist views which are contextually obvious. Sorry, those don’t have the status of ‘evidence’.
The reason people aren’t challenging you isn’t that they agree.
I think, at least.
I’m pretty sure it’s that they’re vomiting in their mouths at what you’re implying.
It’s true that both men and women have strong sexual instincts.
And it’s true those instincts act differently.
Women can sometimes act based on libido.
I’m a man and I admit; men have that all the time. Difference between the genders.
There are basic biological differences between men and women that mean women see the world differently because they aren’t set up that way.
That’s one factor I think, reading between the lines, you’re completely blind to.
Another is that there are many accounts here. This is just math; if there are a bunch of people who, in a social gathering, have a consensus view of someone then it tends to be true.
I know it isn’t always true; I was horribly bullied in school. But it tends to be.
Women talking among women tend to be truthful about these things. We can see that in fiction that is based on real life, and ‘reality’ shows. You’re ignoring that.
There are various other factors that you aren’t taking into consideration, but I’m a gentleman; I’ll give the floor to a lady if there’s anyone who wants to continue this.
In closing, really. Vomiting in our mouths over here.
Nope. He is pretty spot on. Women are not the meek little things that can not possibly be in control of their own sexuality. Women love sex as much as we do. And they will sleep with someone who they think is hot too. And sometimes they hear some pretty outrageous lines, and still go along with it, just because they want some D.
Not all women are naive little things. They tend to learn about guys from the guys they encounter. And from falling for their lines. So, it is more sexist to think of them as totally pure little Disney Princesses, than to assume that they might have had control of their own sexuality.
There are guys like Jean who feed girls lines to get the one thing on their minds. Some girls do fall for it and end up regretting. But nowadays it is hard to find anyone that naive anymore. And most just chalk it up to, “At least I got laid by a sexy hunk!”
And enough with the gentleman stuff already… Most guys who repeatedly claim to be a gentleman tend to not have much luck with women because they keep calling them Milady…
And if you are vomiting into your mouth. Maybe you need to keep it closed.
And, quite honestly, for every guy feeding lines to a woman to get the one thing on his mind, there is a woman doing the same thing to a guy. Sexual Revolution and all that…
You have two secret here.
1. One they think that Jeanie kepping secret, which is Jean claim that Jeanie his fiance and other girls secret time with Jean, which they don’t want to reveal too much information on. That what there thinking is Jeanie real secret.
2. The real secret that Jeanie keeping that she Jean and now she a girl and not a guy in addition to being a Genie too.
It all got messed together together into one big mess. So it both Jeanie secret and there secret too and not secret at the same time or they know some part of each other secret, but not the whole secret. They all know something and don’t know something at the same time and ultimate secret here.
One factor no one seems to have brought up so far is exactly what magazine Jean writes for. I think what Mr. Rudd has in mind is Playboy. While the actual magazine has actually dropped the centerfold and all those great cartoonists and will probably die soon, it’s left a legacy of over fifty years and established a meme.
It fits Jean so well, not only in the bed-hopping, but in his sense of style, his cooler apartment, his passion for surfing (which must be new; not a lot of surfers in Ohio), and his obsession with old James Bond movies (Playboy serialized a lot of Ian Fleming’s Bond novels). Who can identify Honey Ryder and Vesper Lynd without looking them up? Jean can. (They’re Bond girls from Dr. No and Casino Royale, and both of them were portrayed by Ursula Andress in two 1960s Bond movies. Also, there are references to them in a scene in the latest Bond movie, SPECTRE.)
Nessman…Jean Nessman.
I have all the strips saved, and looking back two and three strips I just realized that the “Dad” of the last woman talking to Jean(ie) in this strip is the daughter of Jean’s editor. Is Jean not only a horndog but sleeping his/her way to the top? If so, Jean’s karma is way worse than I thought when I wrote my last comment.
Which would explain why “Dad” took “Jean” away from Jeannie.
Musing further about that last panel, I’m thinking that Jean might just forget herself like she almost did when she saw Belle playing tonsil-hockey with another guy and that the conversation could go something like this:
JEANIE: Hey, I’m not like that! I slept with all of you because you’re hot. And don’t tell me you didn’t like it.
ALL THREE WOMEN: WHAT?!!.
Tom, that’s certainly a very Jean-like, sort of self-serving disclaimer. But from the way Jeannie is referring to “Jean” in the third person, in panel 4, I think that she hasn’t yet forgotten her current physical form.
But of course that could change.
Yes, I am more in agreement with Kattgirl on this one.
I think Jeanie will be uncomfortable defending Jean and trying to be cool about too.
Then I see Rodge masquerading as Jean tries to what both Rodge and Jean will do with girls, but, they will remember Jean did to them from before and turn him down in front of Jeanie. Then Jeanie shoot eyes of fire at Rodge, when Rodge turns to Jeanie to do something that would be both consistent with that nature or Rodge and Jean.
Then she going to be stuck either continuing to defend Jean (alias Rodge) or side with the other girls. She will probably swallow her pride and side with the other girls against Jean.
Another way it might go is:
JEANIE: No, I–Jean slept with you because you’re hot, not to get to your dad.
DAUGHTER: Is that what Jean told you?
TALL BROWN-HAIRED WOMAN: And you believed him? Like I said, he lies all the time.
DEBBIE: How long have you been dating him, anyway?
That seems more likely. Or even:
DEBBIE: So, how much did he offer to pay you?
Alternatively:
JEANIE: Not JUST to get to your dad. I mean, he’s got standards, and you look good in /and/ out of that dress…
*crickets in the background*
ALL TOGETHER NOW: W-WHAT?!
OK, I *like* that version! (I’m envisioning the look on Jeannie’s face as she realizes she’s just stuck her foot in it.)
JEANIE: Uh, I mean… that is, Jean said you do… Um… Look! Is that a demonic duck?