Jeanie Bottle 633
Apr21
on April 21, 2021
at 11:17 pm
and modified on December 27, 2022. at 12:26 am
Apologies for having to use the backup posting date this week, folks. But thankfully, cooler heads prevailed in the comic itself.
Jean keep your cool don’t cause time mishaps with transformations into animals and forget to turn them back in your time line.
Maybe she ALWAYS ended up transformed into chihuahua and not transforming her would change the past! Do any of you remember seeing her later?
Its possible. However in that case she will end up a chihuahua by some other means. Maybe the details of how things happened can be changed but not what happens.
Panel 3~ Jean temper temper!!
Damn you Neil, I want to see Rita get Chihuahua’d.
I think Neil going to have to block Jeanie changing Rita into a Chihuaha’d, because, that going a little bit too far as much as I would like to see it. But, we do know that Jeanie is the Blond exchange girl that Jean took to the Prom, so Neil is going to have to relent on Jeanie having some dealing with Jean and going to the Prom with him.
“(Did) You hear what she called me?”
Is Jeanie offended by Rita for what she said to her past self, or to the present one?
Yes.
Both. but I think she’s more upset about what was said to her present one.
Not to be a nit-picker but–Rita has red hair but dark eyebrows. Unless she is using mascara on the eyebrows she is not a real redhead. Jeanie, just change her hair color back to the original shade or leave her bald.
And what would prevent Jeanie to change her hair color if she WOULD be real redhead?
The obvious choice is that Jeanie will change Rita into a redheaded guy who will change his name to “Roger” and move to Florida…
Jeanie has dark eyebrows also and we know that she’s a blond.
I’ve noticed that blondes will darker their eyebrows on purpose, redheads not so much.
Don’t turn people into chihuahuas. Turn her into a chupacabra instead!
I vote for Pugs. Can’t have too many pugs!
Pugs do make good “puppy dog pals'” Yeh, I have grandchildren. Or Sky would also be a good one.
She’ll just come over and wet on your leg.
hahahahaha!
You are so right! Jeanie, dear heart, you are a GENIE, a magical being of cosmic power. You can bend time and space.
What do you care about the idle insult of a snippy teenager? Anything you do merely admits Rita’s power over you.
I don’t see a cooler head prevailing just yet. As always, I do want to see Neil assert his mastership.
And dang it, amusing though it might be, but you don’t just go around changing teen girls into chihuahuas.
I do want to see Jeanie discovering just exactly what makes Jean an inferior lover to Neil in Jean’s body.
(I want Neil to restrain Jeanie because of the no chihuahua rule, rather than some silly timey-wimey nonsense. )
Yes, I see Neil having to chaperon Jeanie to keep her from doing something bad to Rita, but, he can’t keep Jeanie from going to the Prom with Jean, because, that the history that they remembered. Remember that we are in the Kelvin Time Line and not the original time line before Jeanie did a time travel and changed the past to the one that they remembered. We are in the process of seeing how she changed the past and that what this story arc of Jeanie Bottle is.
Jeanie promming teen-Jean is something I look forward to. Neil needs not to interfere with that.
I am wondering who teen-Nat is going to end up smooching with.
Have I mentioned how much I love that Nat wears a white shirt and tie to the prom? Serious geek-girl, there.
Heh, all three girls have pony tails.
I think Neil as young Natalie is going to be the wild card here, in we don’t know how she going to fit to this process of making the history that both Jeanie and Neil remember it being. We know how Jeanie fit into the history of what they remembered happening 6 or 7 years ago at or just before the school happened and we are going to find out what happened and who did what during that time period. We know that Neil/Natalie is also going to get drawn into the history of what happened too, we just don’t know how or where he going to get drawn into this mess up time line.
Why do people keep bringing up Star Trek’s Kelvin time line? Time travel is either A: linear, or B: Radial.
If time is linear you cannot change what already happened… Jean remembered going to prom with a transfer student because Jeanie went back in time to BE the transfer student that he remembered. Jeanie did not turn Rita into a chihuahua because she brought Neil along and Natalie prevented her. Whatever else happens will happen because it already DID happen.
If time is radial then it doesn’t matter what Jeanie does in the past because any change creates a new time lime that becomes Jeanie and Neil’s new present. For example, see Avengers: Endgame and The Ancient One’s explanation of what would happen if the Infinity Stones were taken from their past locations to correct the present.
Well, it like this. In the original Star Trek, there was no Romulus attack of Kelvin and the Planet Vulcan was never destroyed either. This is the past that everybody remembers. Then some Irate Romulan get ticked off with losing his family because, Spock didn’t show up in time to save the day. This guy can do time travel and he got a doomsday weapon with him to destroy planets. By the time our hero’s have saved the day, the bad guy has already changed the time line into an entirely direction and into a different Star Trek Universe than the one that everybody remembers. We refer to this as the Kelvin time line.
The original Jeanie Bottle Universe that we don’t know about and had to exist before the Jeanie Bottle Universe we know about came into existence. This whole story revolves around erasing the original Jeanie Bottle Universe with the one that Jeanie and company remember and that we all know and love too. This is one of the few times that CD Rudd can mess around with his characters and do all kinds of things he wouldn’t do with them before, because, there in an alternate time line than the one that we remember. Just as long as CD Rudd goes back to the Kelvin time line at the end of this story arc, everything OK.
Personally, I would like to find out that Rita a Witch and see her get into a Chick fight with Jeanie as the climace of this Arc. Neil will be the one with the cooler head, Jeanie chaperon or so some other duties which might come along too that he may have to take care also. Contain the damage to the time line that he was complaining about, etc.
@50srefugee: The blouse looks pale green on my screen. Neil/Natalie always wears green.
“No! No turning anyone into anything.” sounds like an explicit command to me. What do you think?
@mike: nod-nod. It absolutely is an explicit command, and I’m glad to see it. I hope Neil doesn’t have to resort to WISHING that Jeanie doesn’t turn Rita into a chihuahua.
See my discussion of leadership/dominance with Pilgrim, below. This command is exactly what prompted that.
@mike: “Blouse looks pale green.” Huh. You’re right. I sampled it in the GIMP, and it gives the color as R:235 G:248 B:238. And her tie and hairband are really green, more green than red and blue together.
@50srefugee Does Jeanie have to obey Neil’s explicit commands anyway?
@Dagor: My guess is yes, she does, assuming its a command and not a suggestion. In panel 4, Natalie’s admonishment sounds very much like a command to me, and Jeanie should treat it as one. Natalie has never put her foot down on any subject up until now, simply going along with the flow, as it were. She’s been poofed into a strip club, dropped onto Roger’s doorstep in her underwear, and had her hormones fiddled with almost to the point of having intercourse… all of which were pretty much written off as Jeanie being Jeanie and no big deal. This is a definite change in attitude.
Notice I say Natalie and not Neil… I think its absurd to refer to a cute brunette by a man’s name.
50srefugee: Do you think there’s a genie punishment for NOT obeying a command?
@mike: “Do you think there’s a genie punishment for NOT obeying a command?’
No, I think it’s more like a compulsion. For the first three commands, the genie doesn’t even have to consciously do anything–master makes a wish, and it happens. The genie is more like a conduit than a magic-user with any personal agency.
But at this point, where Jeanie has discharged the first three mandatory wishes, and has (rather casually) accepted Neil as her Master to avoid being given to a (perhaps) more demanding Master–I think it’s more like like a tendency, a bias. All other things being equal, unless she really objects to it, she’ll do what Neil asks.
It’s notable that Jeanie always seems pleased and excited when she can do something for Neil. I don’t think that’s normal for Jean, nor do I think it’s a result of Jeanie being female. It’s the fact that she’s a Bottle Genie, and Neil is her Master.
You might remember that, so far from being punished for NOT obeying a wish, we’ve heard of one genie who did what her Fuehrer wished even after she’d been ordered not to obey his profoundly evil wishes. Her punishment for that was that the evil empire she helped build was thrown down, she lost her genie powers, and was made mortal.
I think that she was in an almost impossible situation. Her Master made wishes on a truly global scale, exciting wishes that fulfilled her NEED to grant them.
If Neil starts making interesting wishes, truly COSMIC stuff, Jeanie will be almost helpless to resist. Granting wishes for Neil would be like injecting cocaine directly into the pleasure centers of her brain.
Side effect: she’ll fall desperately in love with him. I’m guessing that’s part of how Aracelli got to be the way she is: centuries of doing what her Masters wished for–although most likely few of those wishes were as interesting as what Neil would want to do.
@50srefugee: “Side effect: she’ll fall desperately in love with him.”
I doubt we’ll see this happen until the comic comes to an end. And then what? Neil ages and passes away and Jeanie suffers from a broken heart because she doesn’t age? This scenario calls to mind that montage from Highlander as Heather ages and dies, crushing Connor MacLeod emotionally while that heart rending song by Queen plays in the background.
@mike: “And then what? Neil ages and passes away…?”
Yeah, pretty much. Although we did get a historical flashback to a couple of 1930s guys, one of whom got a bottled genie. (Andy and Sid.) Sid aged at the normal rate, but Andy, the one with the genie, seemed to stay young. Hm.
And we’ve seen Jeanie trying to get Neil to surf–explicitly to get him in shape. Unfortunately, she got distracted by her fight with that b–witch. But that’s a start. I don’t know that Jeanie can make her Master as long-lived as she is–but if Neil fully invests in becoming her Master, and starts studying magic with an engineer’s mindset–no telling what happens. Absolutely no telling. Him actually doing his share to improve his health and fitness with good diet and exercise can’t hurt.
Neil isn’t here to embody dominance fantasies, he’s more of a ‘go along to get along’ guy with a side order of ‘voice of reason’ who just wants to build spacecraft, hang out with his best friend and maybe date Aracelli. He’s fully aware that Jean is not really interested him and a desire to dominate others simply isn’t one of his issues. Most of of the comedic tension built into the premise stems from Jean’s unwarranted fear of Neil behaving as Jean would if their situations were reversed. If Neil ever were to prove Jean’s fear justified that comedic tension would be gone. If you’re hoping Neil will start treating Jean like a servant, slave or concubine I suspect you’re in for a long wait.
It’s not “dominance” in the fetish sense–it’s leadership. Neil is the Master in the Genie/Master dyad. He needs to learn to lead, if only in the sense of ballroom dancing.
He doesn’t want to lead anymore than Jean wants to be a girl–that’s just too bad. Jeanie needs to be led. She’s wildly irresponsible.
“Most of of the comedic tension built into the premise stems from Jean’s unwarranted fear of Neil behaving as Jean would if their situations were reversed. If Neil ever were to prove Jean’s fear justified that comedic tension would be gone.” Correct to a degree. Thing is, being dominant doesn’t necessarily imply abuse of the kind you’re pointing to with “servant, slave, or concubine”. True leadership implies a willing partnership.
What if Jeanie discovers Neil can lead without trying to own her, as Jean would if their positions were reversed? What if Neil learns to be a leader, instead of a doormat? (Look at the way he gets pushed around at work. He does the engineering, and Rodge gets the credit.) I’d trade a bit of comedic tension for that.
Neil’s exhibiting leadership RIGHT NOW, trying to keep Jeanie from injuring a girl for the crime of being a teenager. (Said girl is using the power of her sexuality to be cruelly dominant. She may need to be set down a bit, but not turned into a lap dog.) I applaud that. I want to see more of that. I want to see him earn Jeanie’s respect, not her fear or slavish obedience.
And, gods, as an engineer, Neil should wake up to the fact that he is paired with a magical being. Why is he not absolutely obsessed with learning to be a hoodoo engineer?
@Larry
For some reason your comments make me picture Natalie and Jeanie being stuck living back up to the present day to preserve the timelines. Going through puberty again on the other side of the gender divide and giving Natalie some time to get used to reigning in Jeanie’s excesses and Jeanie time to get more used to using her powers resulting in an older and wiser couple post time-skip. Along with Neil celibrating being able to be a guy again till a grumpy Jeanie turns him back into Natalie because she’s still stuck as a girl.
@50’srefugee
So your saying Araceli took advantage of a new and inexperienced genie causing them a great deal of psychological trauma so she could get her fix . . . that makes a certain degree of sense. I wonder where wishing on a genie to be eternally young would rate on the power scale?
Being unaging would probably require changing one’s public identity every few decades in order to avoid suspicion. On the other hand, there’s no reason why Jeanie can’t make Neil healthy enough to live long enough to be the not-quite-oldest American at his time of death if she thinks to do so.
It seems that there is a bit of change of artwork appearing, i think cd is trying something new.
Explain.
Huh, really? I don’t recall thinking that while I was editing. Maybe you’re just used to both Natalie and Jeanie being a lot bustier in their adult forms? Their teen forms are significantly less curvy.
CDRudd is improving his skills, thus the art has changed over time. Go look at the first comic and compare it to today, all harsh lines and heavier details. Over time, CDRudd has developed a style and has continued to refine that style.
But no, I definitely see what you’re talking about. Jeanie’s face in panels 3 and 4 looks REALLY off. I think the angle, plus her eyes are a little too far apart, and her nose looks weird. So I definitely see what you’re talking about here.
I think the art difference is mainly cause I was rushed while making this comic.
at least she still refering to her past self as me. its when she start to think her old male self is her boyfriend we need to start to worry.
As long as Jeanie is talking to Neil, your right about how she refers herself as me. But, when she in the present of her younger male self, she going to have to talk in third person as in them, him and as my boy friend or otherwise she going to sound odd and even strange to Jean. When Jeanie in Jean presence, she going to have to talk to him like he a completely different person from herself. Younger Jean has to see her as Blond Exchange Girl only and not his old self that just happens to be a female genie.
Having said that, Neil has his work cut out for himself her, nobody get turned into a dog and trying to hold Jeanie temper down and keeping this thing from blowing up in his face.
Speaking of the curves issue, right now I’m playing “Tig Ol’ Biddies” on YouTube by Your Favorite Martian. Thinking maybe Rita’s rack may turn out the same way this song ends…
I thought all wall lockers were standard. The ones to the left of Natalie are right handed but the ones to the right of Jeanie are left handed. Must be a Canadian thing.
Nah… it’s just a copied background with an inverted image.
I didn’t think about doing that.
And the corner locker has two doors. Easier to stuff nerds into I guess.
Also, full-height lockers are mainly a thing in snow county, where students would need to stow overcoats and overshoes. In snow-free places (e.g. any part of Florida, or in California outside of the mountains), students need only jackets, and usually get the half-height lockers that are double stacked, with the less fortunate half of the students having to kneel/squat to reach inside.