A former Genie Lord, Kazom is a 3000+ year old Genie who exists in the form of a witch familiar while still serving as a genie to a teenage boy in California.
I can’t say that I fault Haji for deciding that Genies should not be allowed to grant victory to any side of the war–it was, after all, the biggest war that humankind has ever experienced. “Make a 4F person healthy enough to fight” may be within what is allowed, but nothing that would by itself turn the tide of a battle by a Genie’s direct action (e.g. making a disaster such as a storm or earthquake befall the enemy).
I believe that the reference in the comic and in Ijuin’s comment is to Eva Braun. The “consort” of a certain German leader during that late unpleasantness.
A little flash back in history. Eva Braun (died Eva Hitler soon after she married Adolf Hitler) in April 1945, by Cyanide poisoning (aka, cyanide capsule).
Now, there is some reports of Eva Braun surviving and moving to North America after the war (specifically in eastern Canada). Now what many people failed to realize was Eva’s real life sister, named her daughter Eva and she intern was the Eva Braun that was in Canada, not Eva Braun/Hitler.
The news report in comic 376 was from March 17, 1944 and Lord Kazom appeared after the news report.
This means, in the comic timeline, Eevi (aka Eva) will lose her genie-hood just over a year before her death. Which also falls historically when the Axis started taking some significance hits by the allies forces.
Why do I bring this all up? Cause in the comic, Miss Eden, is NOT Eva Braun/Hitler. She died in 1945 by an ‘Earthly poison’.
Believe me, a LOT of research went into this storyline.
Ms Eden is a tribute character, and is not a comic representation of the real Barbara Eden.
According to Wikipedia Barbara Eden lives in Beverly Hills, California. Jean, Neil and Company lives in Cocoa Beach, Florida (or Orlando in the case of Araceli and Caley).
there is actually evidence that hilter escaped the bombing. The actual scene was messed up thanks to a unit of Russians who should have been court-martialed. in addition the only thing the Russians had to say as evidence was a skull. over a decade ago they finally released it to the world, which the us quickly went into testing it. not only was the skull not hitler’s, but it was not even a man’s skull, it was a woman! there had been several sightings of a potential hitler down in south america, which many nazi’s fled to. that being said, regardless, hitler’s private medical doucments were found. He was far from healthy, even had he survived he has less than a decade. he is definitely dead by now
Whatever Eevi’s master may have made her do, Rouyaa still loves her half-sister. Is she going to let Eevi’s fate stand as Haji has decreed, or is she going to try to help? I’d guess the latter, and involving her new master in the process, as well.
Do you not get it that Eevi is Eva Braun and her master is Hitler? There’s no FREEDOM on the part of the author as to what her fate will be. Unless Eva Braun’s body as found was a fabrication to allow her to escape. I don’t think there will be some contrived thing like that. Not a lot of effort is going to be put into saving Eva Braun for the sake of this story I think, it is historical fact she wasn’t a nice person, and if she was a genie helping Hitler do the things she did, that’s going to get her character killed in any work of fiction like this.
So… if a genie disobeys this rule, they will be kicked out of their bottle, and become mortal?
Hmmm… you know, I seem to remember a similar looking bottle being empty, and being found somewhere, at some point in time. And maybe being found by someone with the propensity (or inherited trait perhaps?) of being able to wield magic or become a genie…
Here’s how I see it playing out.
Despite being careful with wishes the master will one day say “I wish I could do more to help”
Rouyaa will then whip up a secret government experiment to convert 4F’s into super soldiers.
Rouyaa knows that this is against Haji’s decreee but does it for sisterly love so she can join Eva.
Rouyaa then makes her master the first guinea pig and changes his name to Steve Rogers.
Given we all know what happened to Steve Rogers and he is around to this day I see another cross over happening.
🙂
Nitpick time: Panel 5: “She willing” to “She willingly”
Also, you may wish to look at rewording the last panel: “Growing old, subject to injury, earthly poisons, pains.”
From ‘Common sense’ we can tell that “injury, poisons, [and] pains” are all part of the “subject to ____” phrase. However, the use of commas indicates that everything involved is part of one list subordinate instead to “growing ____” (growing old, growing subject to injury, growing earthly poisons, [and] growing pains).
Likewise, there’s ambiguity on whether “pains” is in parallel with “poisons” as being modified by “earthly.”
For clarity, try one of the following, perhaps, depending on what meaning is intended:
“Growing old — subject to injury, pain[/pains], and earthly poisons.”
“Growing old — subject to injury as well as earthly poisons and pains.”
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Side question: “Haji, the chief of all genies,” isn’t given a title the several times he/she/it has been invoked. However, subordinates have titles: “Lord Shona” and “Lord Kazom.”
If “Haji” is a title instead of a name, consider adding a “The” in front of each instance:
– 3 “The Haji, chief of…”
– 4 “…violated the Haji’s decree.”
– 5 “..ignored the Haji’s directive”
– 5 “The Haji has sentenced
The reason I didn’t reword that bubble to flow better was the limited space. I actually didn’t even notice the subordinate clause problem you pointed out. I’ll have to redo that bubble entirely.
As for Haji, see the Information page linked above the comic. I believe it’s both a name and a title. So he’s the Haji, and his name is Haji.
So it is a title but the association isn’t related to worldly power. In the Arabic World its anyone who has made the pilgrimage to the Kaaba, although I’ve also been told that anyone over a certain age could also qualify since its associated with wisdom.
This is an interesting story although having a character sympathize with Ms. Braun is not something I’m really comfortable with. I’m wondering if she’s being coerced or there’s some other genie control laws that the um’… don’t even want to say his name… is using. I’m not sure how much power masters have over Genies since I always assumed Jeannie had actually been free in the TV show since Tony Released her on the beach in episode 1.
Don’t forget that Rouyaa hasn’t seen Eevi in many decades, due to being stuck in her bottle for so long before Andy found it. People, even genies, can change a LOT over that span of time. Rouyaa clearly doesn’t know the person who Eva has become.
Personally I am reluctant to blame Eva (this Eva, not the real one): Adolf Hitler was an evil leader but he still formed a connection with millions of German people, generating a level of charismatic attraction that was almost without parallel. She may have been under his spell and no more able to see the wrong she was doing than the children of the Hitler Youth. Or are we to believe that these millions of people were also evil?
@GoesAnywhere: “having a character sympathize with Ms. Braun is not something I’m really comfortable with” — outside of historians, how many people have even heard of Eva Braun? The first time I’ve ever heard her name was in this webcomic (however many strips back ago it was when talking about genies who overused their magic).
@Annabelle: I’d heard of Eva Braun. In history class. Along with Cleopatra, Anne Boleyn, Josephine Bonaparte, Eleanor Roosevelt and plenty of other people in history. Aside from being a leader’s girlfriend, she was pretty much a non-entity. She held no political office, performed no vital function, had no official influence, and was basically an unknown even in her time. More a curiosity than anything else, as being very close to a powerful leader, yet largely uninvolved in any way other than romantically.
But she’s not a secret to anyone who paid attention in high school. And there’s no shame in involving her in a webcomic story, any more than there would be with, say, Martha Washington. It’s FICTION, folks, get over it.
@Kattgirl: As far as I recall, she wasn’t mentioned in my history classes, but since those were so very long ago (and so very boring as heck), it’s possible that memory kept more important things in mind instead. *shrug* Cleopatra comes up in lit, not so much in history, and as for the others, I have /no/ idea who Anee Boleyn might be, but I’m sure google/wiki could point me in the right direction.
High school history was:
9th grade: Washington State History
10th grade: World History (with a focus on pre-modern stuff)
11th grade: US History (revolutionary war to civil war crap class: who was at what battle where when name/date/place rote memorization)
12th grade: Contemporary World Problems (1992-1993, so this was juuuuust a bit after WW2 :p)
Very little room for WW1 and 2 stuff and even less for bit player / non-entities therein.
@Annabelle: Well, I honestly didn’t remember many details about her, either, (not that there really is much to recall, it seems.) She is just part of one of those famous couples whose names appear in history – you know, Paris & Helen, Anthony & Cleopatra, Abelard & Heloise, Napoleon & Josephine, Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky, et cetera, etc.
At my school, they spent a couple of weeks on everything from prehistory to 1775, and the next 2 years on the stuff that happened in America since then. So, yeah, pretty lopsided. Frankly, I find the earlier centuries more interesting.
Was Dubai “Dubai” round the World War II era? I know that before they were the United Arab Emirates, they were the Trucial States, but what they were individually…hold on…
Ah. Wikipedia says Dubai was mentioned in the geographic literature as early as 1095 (the Emirates formed in 1971)…it was a fishing village and the center of a pearl industry before oil came along…it’s been around since at least the early 18th century, but the Emirate as we know it came when some guys came there in 1833…so I guess it’s a legit reference.
Probably not, unless it came with a sex change back to male. Being a mortal woman would likely be even lower on Jean’s list of preferences than being a genie.
Taking what was a throw away reference before… And here we get a woman who sadly finds out her half sister ISN’T poor and misunderstood but has genuinely fallen in love and is willingly serving a man who thinks the only thing between Germany and utopia is ‘get rid of’ all the ‘inferior’ people.
Didn’t Kazom in the present says that Eva died at a very young age from using her magic exceedingly on a global scale to magical exhaustion? If I’m historically correct, Eva died along with Adolf Hitler with the takedown of Berlin in April 1945. If Eva does end up become accursed as he’s describing here, she then maybe could die by committing suidice rather than from magical exhaustion like the original Eva Braun.
I can’t help but think that there’s some plot inaccuracy here, even if CD Rudd is changing this comic’s world history a bit to include genie interventions. Guess I have to see how this all plays out.
The radio broadcast two comics ago, was in March 7, 1944. Eva aka Evii died in April 1945. Thus making her un-genied (I don’t want to say human, cause she’s still a genie, just with limited powers and being mortal now) for a year before her passing.
Kazom, said Eva died young… (young being a relative term for a 3000+ year old genie). As for Kazom’s talk to Jean in comic 164, Kazom never said, she died because of over magic usage. It was implied to prove his points that Genie’s don’t live forever.
Though I will concede to the term ‘Mortal’ being thrown around incorrectly. Genies are not Immortal. They traditionally die differently then humans do.
Humans die of injury, illness or old age. Genies are more like rechargeable batteries. They remain alive as long as they have a ‘magical’ charge. Over time, a genie’s magical charge is more difficult to maintain (like an old rechargeable battery), and when the magical powers is gone then the genie dies.
In Eevi’s case, if a battery’s power is drained quickly, the battery gets harder and harder to hold a charge. So magic on a global scale is making it harder and harder for her to hold a magical charge.
Eevi’s still a genie after being accursed. But without the ‘luxury’ of her bottle, she can no longer recharge her magic, and with the added ‘mortality’ Haji is punishing her with, she can not only die from being magicly drained. She can die from anything that can kill a human.
Okay, it just seemed that Kazom was implying that was the cause of Eva’s eventual death back then. Since at the time when he and Jean was talking about how a genie’s death can be met with using exhausting all of his or her magic and she was used as an example within that conversation.
I know this is probably REALLY late, but this means genies reproduce like humans do right?
Also 2 more questions: just how did the nazi genie’s abandoned bottle got from Germany to the States. And if ANYONE would have been sucked into it (there’s no way Jean was the only person to open the bottle in all those years) or if said someone happened to be descended from a genie-turned-mortal.
> this means genies reproduce like humans do right?
What part of this page makes you think that?
> just how did the nazi genie’s abandoned bottle got from Germany to the States.
Eevi’s bottle is still in Germany.
> there’s no way Jean was the only person to open the bottle in all those years
What makes you think that? We already know that Rouyaa’s bottle was locked away in a trunk for 60 years, totally unnoticed. It could easily have been another 60 years after she left her bottle before it was found again.
Or, the bottle could have been picked up by some GI who brought it home as a souvenir and it got locked in an attic or something until said GI’s family eventually disposed of his old stuff. I personally know of an American soldier from WWII who was in Berlin and just died within the last year. So old souvenirs like that could still be turning up occasionally after being forgotten for a long time.
I like the interweaving of the story with WWII. As someone who grew up loving history, particularly war history, it’s just fun to see.
One other note… if I were CD, I’d have said that Eva’s last wish grant was to teleport herself and Hitler to the Nazi Moon Base, where they have been secretly plotting with the Illuminati (who live in the hollow earth) for their eventual reconquest of the world. But then again, that’d be a whole ‘nother plot altogether! (Could probably work in The Wotch or something though. lol)
Silly SD&SU, The Nazis didn’t build their moon base until several years after they won the war in 1948. And that was simply due to BJ Blazkowicz suffering brain damage and being unable to kill Hitler. You need to brush up on your Wolfenstein history… 🙂
I was actually basing it on the real-world conspiracy theories rather than Wolfenstein. I remember watching and reading things about NASA launching rockets at strange formations on the moon and whatnot. I find pseudo-science and pseudo-history to be fun, even if they’re nothing but nonsense…
…Or at least that’s what we’re led to believe by the Kenyan-born Obama and his U.N.-sponsored New World Order! XD
No, there’s something else. Eevi (no final e) is what Rouyaa is calling her, but “an Eevie” (final e, indefinite article “an” which is very rarely used with personal names) has to refer to someone or something else.
Current research has Mr and Mrs Hitler escaping to Argentina just as the war ended and living there in exile with their daughter until they both died. All the actual evidence supports this, but the war propaganda (aka Legend) is still stronger even though all of the evidence that supported it has proven to be false or made up. Check under The “Grey Wolf”
This comment really intrigued me, so I looked it up. However, I’m afraid that the consensus among historians is that Grey Wolf: The Escape of Adolf is junk history, unworthy of citation. The biggest problem being that they give next to no proof that the evidence they wrote about was actually true.
That’s the problem with status quo history. The real problem is that all the standard version history is based on hearsay. The Russian evidence has been proven false (the skull fragments were a woman’s, the other skeletal fragments unmatched, the blood types and DNA didn’t match, and the dentist that identified his teeth hadn’t actually worked on Hitler.) The English officer that wrote the original version wasn’t given access to any Russian sources and made most of what he wrote up based on what third parties told them heard and then later re-edited his official version to elimiante discrepancies. And so forth and so forth. The problem is that in deciding what is true in historical discussians, the rule is to weigh the documentary and primary witnesses first, then decide which has the greatest value. As it turns out, the “official” version has “NO” documentary or primary witnesses while the “Argentina Retirement” version has filing cabnets worth. It’s just mostly in Spanish and German or buried in legal and financial documents that have to be translated. Considering the FBI’s largest foreign office was in Argentina keeping an eye on ex-Nazis after the war and that Mr. Hoover kept saying Hitler was in South America (we have heavily censored FBI documents, but most are still classified) it not un fair to say most government people knew where he was but didn’t want to upset the cold war situation by dragging Hitler back into the situation. We’d already pre-empted the former Nazi intelligence network in the Soviet Union to work for the Western Powers, not to mention project paperclip and paying Ford and General Motors for the damage our bombing had done to their factories in Germany.
I brought up “Grey Wolf” because it is a very good central source of all the information about escape of Mr and Mrs Hitler that can save you a lot of cross searching. Comfortable legends die hard, especially ones we don’t want to give up. But reality is what it is.
I forgot to add that anyone who says that “Grey Wolf” fails to cite any sources or evidence has obviously neither read nor really looked at the book. The last third of the book is sources and citations.
That is a distinct possibility. But, that would explain why we will have an empty Genie Bottle or totem every so often that needs a new Genie to take residence in it. Which Jean not so graciously got caught up in not so long ago.
I think Jeanie’s Bottle is Rouyaa’s, which raises the question, how does she lose her bottle? Does she help her sister Evie escape? Does she turn the war for the Allies?
Does she expend all her magic countering Evie’s magic, something like what Kazom does eventually, and elect mortality with her Master?
@50srefugee: I think you’re right, Rouyaa’s bottle winds up being the vacant one that Jean picks up. And I think we can now see why; at some point, Rouyaa defies Haji, and gets banned from her bottle, leaving it open for Jean to find.
Time will tell what happens to Rouyaa and Andy.
And Sid uses the whole experience as grist for his mill, inspiring him to write the pilot for the IDoJ TV series. So everything comes full circle.
Now, we wait to see exactly how all this shakes out…
Well, that explains why Eva died with her Master.
I can’t say that I fault Haji for deciding that Genies should not be allowed to grant victory to any side of the war–it was, after all, the biggest war that humankind has ever experienced. “Make a 4F person healthy enough to fight” may be within what is allowed, but nothing that would by itself turn the tide of a battle by a Genie’s direct action (e.g. making a disaster such as a storm or earthquake befall the enemy).
Or did she? Maybe she’s a certain cranky old lady who lives in the same building as Jean and Neil… who finally got her picture up on the cast page.
Given that Mrs. Eden seems to be a nod and a tribute to Barbara Eden, it would be a little cold to portray her as an enthusiastic supporter of Hitler.
I believe that the reference in the comic and in Ijuin’s comment is to Eva Braun. The “consort” of a certain German leader during that late unpleasantness.
A little flash back in history. Eva Braun (died Eva Hitler soon after she married Adolf Hitler) in April 1945, by Cyanide poisoning (aka, cyanide capsule).
Now, there is some reports of Eva Braun surviving and moving to North America after the war (specifically in eastern Canada). Now what many people failed to realize was Eva’s real life sister, named her daughter Eva and she intern was the Eva Braun that was in Canada, not Eva Braun/Hitler.
The news report in comic 376 was from March 17, 1944 and Lord Kazom appeared after the news report.
This means, in the comic timeline, Eevi (aka Eva) will lose her genie-hood just over a year before her death. Which also falls historically when the Axis started taking some significance hits by the allies forces.
Why do I bring this all up? Cause in the comic, Miss Eden, is NOT Eva Braun/Hitler. She died in 1945 by an ‘Earthly poison’.
Believe me, a LOT of research went into this storyline.
I’ll also point out, as Ephemerer said,
Ms Eden is a tribute character, and is not a comic representation of the real Barbara Eden.
According to Wikipedia Barbara Eden lives in Beverly Hills, California. Jean, Neil and Company lives in Cocoa Beach, Florida (or Orlando in the case of Araceli and Caley).
there is actually evidence that hilter escaped the bombing. The actual scene was messed up thanks to a unit of Russians who should have been court-martialed. in addition the only thing the Russians had to say as evidence was a skull. over a decade ago they finally released it to the world, which the us quickly went into testing it. not only was the skull not hitler’s, but it was not even a man’s skull, it was a woman! there had been several sightings of a potential hitler down in south america, which many nazi’s fled to. that being said, regardless, hitler’s private medical doucments were found. He was far from healthy, even had he survived he has less than a decade. he is definitely dead by now
Whatever Eevi’s master may have made her do, Rouyaa still loves her half-sister. Is she going to let Eevi’s fate stand as Haji has decreed, or is she going to try to help? I’d guess the latter, and involving her new master in the process, as well.
Do you not get it that Eevi is Eva Braun and her master is Hitler? There’s no FREEDOM on the part of the author as to what her fate will be. Unless Eva Braun’s body as found was a fabrication to allow her to escape. I don’t think there will be some contrived thing like that. Not a lot of effort is going to be put into saving Eva Braun for the sake of this story I think, it is historical fact she wasn’t a nice person, and if she was a genie helping Hitler do the things she did, that’s going to get her character killed in any work of fiction like this.
Wow. Now this is getting interesting.
So… if a genie disobeys this rule, they will be kicked out of their bottle, and become mortal?
Hmmm… you know, I seem to remember a similar looking bottle being empty, and being found somewhere, at some point in time. And maybe being found by someone with the propensity (or inherited trait perhaps?) of being able to wield magic or become a genie…
Maybe?
Here’s how I see it playing out.
Despite being careful with wishes the master will one day say “I wish I could do more to help”
Rouyaa will then whip up a secret government experiment to convert 4F’s into super soldiers.
Rouyaa knows that this is against Haji’s decreee but does it for sisterly love so she can join Eva.
Rouyaa then makes her master the first guinea pig and changes his name to Steve Rogers.
Given we all know what happened to Steve Rogers and he is around to this day I see another cross over happening.
🙂
It’s so crazy, it just might work!
Panel 5:
“Haji has sentenced her to be accursed”
Oh no! That one’s totally my own fault. I rewrote that entire bubble to fix a different issue.
You know, I did something similar the other day. Fixed the problem and ended up with another mistake which was simply lame.
But I applaud Shadow for not being silent on this one.
Nitpick time: Panel 5: “She willing” to “She willingly”
Also, you may wish to look at rewording the last panel: “Growing old, subject to injury, earthly poisons, pains.”
From ‘Common sense’ we can tell that “injury, poisons, [and] pains” are all part of the “subject to ____” phrase. However, the use of commas indicates that everything involved is part of one list subordinate instead to “growing ____” (growing old, growing subject to injury, growing earthly poisons, [and] growing pains).
Likewise, there’s ambiguity on whether “pains” is in parallel with “poisons” as being modified by “earthly.”
For clarity, try one of the following, perhaps, depending on what meaning is intended:
“Growing old — subject to injury, pain[/pains], and earthly poisons.”
“Growing old — subject to injury as well as earthly poisons and pains.”
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Side question: “Haji, the chief of all genies,” isn’t given a title the several times he/she/it has been invoked. However, subordinates have titles: “Lord Shona” and “Lord Kazom.”
If “Haji” is a title instead of a name, consider adding a “The” in front of each instance:
– 3 “The Haji, chief of…”
– 4 “…violated the Haji’s decree.”
– 5 “..ignored the Haji’s directive”
– 5 “The Haji has sentenced
The reason I didn’t reword that bubble to flow better was the limited space. I actually didn’t even notice the subordinate clause problem you pointed out. I’ll have to redo that bubble entirely.
As for Haji, see the Information page linked above the comic. I believe it’s both a name and a title. So he’s the Haji, and his name is Haji.
So it is a title but the association isn’t related to worldly power. In the Arabic World its anyone who has made the pilgrimage to the Kaaba, although I’ve also been told that anyone over a certain age could also qualify since its associated with wisdom.
This is an interesting story although having a character sympathize with Ms. Braun is not something I’m really comfortable with. I’m wondering if she’s being coerced or there’s some other genie control laws that the um’… don’t even want to say his name… is using. I’m not sure how much power masters have over Genies since I always assumed Jeannie had actually been free in the TV show since Tony Released her on the beach in episode 1.
Don’t forget that Rouyaa hasn’t seen Eevi in many decades, due to being stuck in her bottle for so long before Andy found it. People, even genies, can change a LOT over that span of time. Rouyaa clearly doesn’t know the person who Eva has become.
Personally I am reluctant to blame Eva (this Eva, not the real one): Adolf Hitler was an evil leader but he still formed a connection with millions of German people, generating a level of charismatic attraction that was almost without parallel. She may have been under his spell and no more able to see the wrong she was doing than the children of the Hitler Youth. Or are we to believe that these millions of people were also evil?
@GoesAnywhere: “having a character sympathize with Ms. Braun is not something I’m really comfortable with” — outside of historians, how many people have even heard of Eva Braun? The first time I’ve ever heard her name was in this webcomic (however many strips back ago it was when talking about genies who overused their magic).
@Annabelle: I’d heard of Eva Braun. In history class. Along with Cleopatra, Anne Boleyn, Josephine Bonaparte, Eleanor Roosevelt and plenty of other people in history. Aside from being a leader’s girlfriend, she was pretty much a non-entity. She held no political office, performed no vital function, had no official influence, and was basically an unknown even in her time. More a curiosity than anything else, as being very close to a powerful leader, yet largely uninvolved in any way other than romantically.
But she’s not a secret to anyone who paid attention in high school. And there’s no shame in involving her in a webcomic story, any more than there would be with, say, Martha Washington. It’s FICTION, folks, get over it.
@Kattgirl: As far as I recall, she wasn’t mentioned in my history classes, but since those were so very long ago (and so very boring as heck), it’s possible that memory kept more important things in mind instead. *shrug* Cleopatra comes up in lit, not so much in history, and as for the others, I have /no/ idea who Anee Boleyn might be, but I’m sure google/wiki could point me in the right direction.
High school history was:
9th grade: Washington State History
10th grade: World History (with a focus on pre-modern stuff)
11th grade: US History (revolutionary war to civil war crap class: who was at what battle where when name/date/place rote memorization)
12th grade: Contemporary World Problems (1992-1993, so this was juuuuust a bit after WW2 :p)
Very little room for WW1 and 2 stuff and even less for bit player / non-entities therein.
@Annabelle: Well, I honestly didn’t remember many details about her, either, (not that there really is much to recall, it seems.) She is just part of one of those famous couples whose names appear in history – you know, Paris & Helen, Anthony & Cleopatra, Abelard & Heloise, Napoleon & Josephine, Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky, et cetera, etc.
At my school, they spent a couple of weeks on everything from prehistory to 1775, and the next 2 years on the stuff that happened in America since then. So, yeah, pretty lopsided. Frankly, I find the earlier centuries more interesting.
Was Dubai “Dubai” round the World War II era? I know that before they were the United Arab Emirates, they were the Trucial States, but what they were individually…hold on…
Ah. Wikipedia says Dubai was mentioned in the geographic literature as early as 1095 (the Emirates formed in 1971)…it was a fishing village and the center of a pearl industry before oil came along…it’s been around since at least the early 18th century, but the Emirate as we know it came when some guys came there in 1833…so I guess it’s a legit reference.
Believe me, this storyline involved a LOT of research to make sure all the pieces fall in place.
Hey, my guess was right about Chicago!
Good Guess Tom. Now we just have to answer all the rest of your questions.
Wow, poor Eevi… I did “Nazi” this coming.
No “poor Eevi” for me. She seems to have made a conscious choice of her own free will–and I’m afraid she owns the consequences.
I’m sorry for her sister, but Eevi’s getting off easy.
Your pun pushed me out of mein kampfert zone…I’ll leave…
If you’re leaving, Wehrmacht we find you?
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
“She will also be cursed with…mortality!” Wonder if Jean might want that deal?
Probably not, unless it came with a sex change back to male. Being a mortal woman would likely be even lower on Jean’s list of preferences than being a genie.
But that “stuck in the bottle” problem would be over, right?
@Robert Nowall: Maybe so, but do you really believe that Jeannie thinks that far ahead?
Yeah, Kattgirl, you’re right.
@Robrt Nowall – Depends. Does would she rather be a female genie, or a female human?
Taking what was a throw away reference before… And here we get a woman who sadly finds out her half sister ISN’T poor and misunderstood but has genuinely fallen in love and is willingly serving a man who thinks the only thing between Germany and utopia is ‘get rid of’ all the ‘inferior’ people.
Didn’t Kazom in the present says that Eva died at a very young age from using her magic exceedingly on a global scale to magical exhaustion? If I’m historically correct, Eva died along with Adolf Hitler with the takedown of Berlin in April 1945. If Eva does end up become accursed as he’s describing here, she then maybe could die by committing suidice rather than from magical exhaustion like the original Eva Braun.
I can’t help but think that there’s some plot inaccuracy here, even if CD Rudd is changing this comic’s world history a bit to include genie interventions. Guess I have to see how this all plays out.
As I pointed out above,
The radio broadcast two comics ago, was in March 7, 1944. Eva aka Evii died in April 1945. Thus making her un-genied (I don’t want to say human, cause she’s still a genie, just with limited powers and being mortal now) for a year before her passing.
Kazom, said Eva died young… (young being a relative term for a 3000+ year old genie). As for Kazom’s talk to Jean in comic 164, Kazom never said, she died because of over magic usage. It was implied to prove his points that Genie’s don’t live forever.
Though I will concede to the term ‘Mortal’ being thrown around incorrectly. Genies are not Immortal. They traditionally die differently then humans do.
Humans die of injury, illness or old age. Genies are more like rechargeable batteries. They remain alive as long as they have a ‘magical’ charge. Over time, a genie’s magical charge is more difficult to maintain (like an old rechargeable battery), and when the magical powers is gone then the genie dies.
In Eevi’s case, if a battery’s power is drained quickly, the battery gets harder and harder to hold a charge. So magic on a global scale is making it harder and harder for her to hold a magical charge.
Eevi’s still a genie after being accursed. But without the ‘luxury’ of her bottle, she can no longer recharge her magic, and with the added ‘mortality’ Haji is punishing her with, she can not only die from being magicly drained. She can die from anything that can kill a human.
Okay, it just seemed that Kazom was implying that was the cause of Eva’s eventual death back then. Since at the time when he and Jean was talking about how a genie’s death can be met with using exhausting all of his or her magic and she was used as an example within that conversation.
I know this is probably REALLY late, but this means genies reproduce like humans do right?
Also 2 more questions: just how did the nazi genie’s abandoned bottle got from Germany to the States. And if ANYONE would have been sucked into it (there’s no way Jean was the only person to open the bottle in all those years) or if said someone happened to be descended from a genie-turned-mortal.
> this means genies reproduce like humans do right?
What part of this page makes you think that?
> just how did the nazi genie’s abandoned bottle got from Germany to the States.
Eevi’s bottle is still in Germany.
> there’s no way Jean was the only person to open the bottle in all those years
What makes you think that? We already know that Rouyaa’s bottle was locked away in a trunk for 60 years, totally unnoticed. It could easily have been another 60 years after she left her bottle before it was found again.
Well lets put aside those other 2 questions for now –
Because of the mention of nieces/uncles/half-sisters is making me wonder how genies would be “related” to one another
> the mention of nieces/uncles/half-sisters
Ohhh, good point. I don’t know. Perhaps they were related before being turned into genies? That’s how Jeanie came to be, after all.
In all likelyhood Eevi’s bottle is buried in the rubble of Berlin or locked forgotten in a KGB filing cabinet in Moscow.
Or, the bottle could have been picked up by some GI who brought it home as a souvenir and it got locked in an attic or something until said GI’s family eventually disposed of his old stuff. I personally know of an American soldier from WWII who was in Berlin and just died within the last year. So old souvenirs like that could still be turning up occasionally after being forgotten for a long time.
I like the interweaving of the story with WWII. As someone who grew up loving history, particularly war history, it’s just fun to see.
One other note… if I were CD, I’d have said that Eva’s last wish grant was to teleport herself and Hitler to the Nazi Moon Base, where they have been secretly plotting with the Illuminati (who live in the hollow earth) for their eventual reconquest of the world. But then again, that’d be a whole ‘nother plot altogether! (Could probably work in The Wotch or something though. lol)
Silly SD&SU, The Nazis didn’t build their moon base until several years after they won the war in 1948. And that was simply due to BJ Blazkowicz suffering brain damage and being unable to kill Hitler. You need to brush up on your Wolfenstein history… 🙂
Lol.
I was actually basing it on the real-world conspiracy theories rather than Wolfenstein. I remember watching and reading things about NASA launching rockets at strange formations on the moon and whatnot. I find pseudo-science and pseudo-history to be fun, even if they’re nothing but nonsense…
…Or at least that’s what we’re led to believe by the Kenyan-born Obama and his U.N.-sponsored New World Order! XD
“Flaunt” is to openly and unashamedly display something.
“Flout” is to disobey.
Well, you actually can flaunt your intentions. Announcing them publicly would do that. So “flaunt” could indeed be correct.
Panel 7 is the first time I’ve ever seen Kazom angry.
Never realized before that he was a Vulcan. 😉
All I get from the past few panels is an image of Hitler getting it on with an Eevie.
I blame everyone.
Damn you for describing that! Why couldn’t you have kept that to yourself?!
Now I need some brain bleach…
Huh? What’s “an Eevie”? I’m a little afraid to google, given the other reaction.
He’s referring to Eva Braun – or “Evie”, as Rouyaa calls her.
No, there’s something else. Eevi (no final e) is what Rouyaa is calling her, but “an Eevie” (final e, indefinite article “an” which is very rarely used with personal names) has to refer to someone or something else.
I assumed that the final ‘e’ was simply a typo. Maybe Sardonistisnotme will enlighten us.
This is an Eevie:
Current research has Mr and Mrs Hitler escaping to Argentina just as the war ended and living there in exile with their daughter until they both died. All the actual evidence supports this, but the war propaganda (aka Legend) is still stronger even though all of the evidence that supported it has proven to be false or made up. Check under The “Grey Wolf”
This comment really intrigued me, so I looked it up. However, I’m afraid that the consensus among historians is that Grey Wolf: The Escape of Adolf is junk history, unworthy of citation. The biggest problem being that they give next to no proof that the evidence they wrote about was actually true.
That’s the problem with status quo history. The real problem is that all the standard version history is based on hearsay. The Russian evidence has been proven false (the skull fragments were a woman’s, the other skeletal fragments unmatched, the blood types and DNA didn’t match, and the dentist that identified his teeth hadn’t actually worked on Hitler.) The English officer that wrote the original version wasn’t given access to any Russian sources and made most of what he wrote up based on what third parties told them heard and then later re-edited his official version to elimiante discrepancies. And so forth and so forth. The problem is that in deciding what is true in historical discussians, the rule is to weigh the documentary and primary witnesses first, then decide which has the greatest value. As it turns out, the “official” version has “NO” documentary or primary witnesses while the “Argentina Retirement” version has filing cabnets worth. It’s just mostly in Spanish and German or buried in legal and financial documents that have to be translated. Considering the FBI’s largest foreign office was in Argentina keeping an eye on ex-Nazis after the war and that Mr. Hoover kept saying Hitler was in South America (we have heavily censored FBI documents, but most are still classified) it not un fair to say most government people knew where he was but didn’t want to upset the cold war situation by dragging Hitler back into the situation. We’d already pre-empted the former Nazi intelligence network in the Soviet Union to work for the Western Powers, not to mention project paperclip and paying Ford and General Motors for the damage our bombing had done to their factories in Germany.
I brought up “Grey Wolf” because it is a very good central source of all the information about escape of Mr and Mrs Hitler that can save you a lot of cross searching. Comfortable legends die hard, especially ones we don’t want to give up. But reality is what it is.
I forgot to add that anyone who says that “Grey Wolf” fails to cite any sources or evidence has obviously neither read nor really looked at the book. The last third of the book is sources and citations.
I’m really enjoying this one! Kazom looks great! Ah, the swift justice of the great Haji… Anyhoo, back to the art board!
“… forever banned from the luxury of her bottle.”
Could this, perhaps, be where a certain bottle with no genie came from?
That is a distinct possibility. But, that would explain why we will have an empty Genie Bottle or totem every so often that needs a new Genie to take residence in it. Which Jean not so graciously got caught up in not so long ago.
I think Jeanie’s Bottle is Rouyaa’s, which raises the question, how does she lose her bottle? Does she help her sister Evie escape? Does she turn the war for the Allies?
Does she expend all her magic countering Evie’s magic, something like what Kazom does eventually, and elect mortality with her Master?
@50srefugee: I think you’re right, Rouyaa’s bottle winds up being the vacant one that Jean picks up. And I think we can now see why; at some point, Rouyaa defies Haji, and gets banned from her bottle, leaving it open for Jean to find.
Time will tell what happens to Rouyaa and Andy.
And Sid uses the whole experience as grist for his mill, inspiring him to write the pilot for the IDoJ TV series. So everything comes full circle.
Now, we wait to see exactly how all this shakes out…
Great story line, CD!
I really like this development. I like where this story is going.
Something’s wrong.
The tail end of the comment section is cut off when the site is fully loaded, guess there was just too many posts?
Regarding previous post.
If you guys don’t get what I mean, I’d rather not explain.
There’s barely enough brain bleach as is.
Hmmm, strange about the comment section being cut off. What browser are you using? I don’t see any problem in Firefox, Chrome, or Safari on my phone.
I guess its just me…
Using Chrome, maybe its one of my addons.