Jean AKA Jeannie AKA Jeanie, is a film, book and magazine reviewer for a national magazine. Most of Jean’s work is done through e-mail, which means he does not have to go into the office.
On a trip to find a gift for his girlfriend, Jean found a empty Genie Bottle. Upon picking up this bottle Jean became the bottle’s new genie powered occupant. Not only was Jean turned into a genie, but the bottle turned him into what he believed a genie of the bottle to look like, which due to his fascination with a classic 60s TV show turned into a bust young Blonde female.
A junior engineer, who works for a small engineering firm in Cocoa Beach. The firm focuses mostly on NASA projects.Neil is Jean’s best friend. When Jean was turned into a genie, Neil somehow became Jean’s master.
You know that. I know that. Jeanie…Jeanie has no idea that…well, Jeanie just has no idea. She doesn’t realize that Belle had sex with Jeanie’s idea of what Jean is like, not with Neil.
I wonder, though, if Neil himself was paying enough attention at the time to know what Jeanie wants him to demonstrate.
I have no clue where you’re getting this idea from. Jeanie has stated/thought multiple times that she wants to learn Neil’s secret to being better at sex than Jean was.
I admit, this is speculative. I don’t think that when Jeanie transformed Neil into Jean, that the magic stopped with Jean’s physical form. I think that Jeanie inadvertently made Neil into Jeanie’s idea of what Jean was like–God’s gift to women, somebody that isn’t much like Neil.
Again, speculative, and I’m prepared to proven wrong in the next comic or two.
Correct me if I am wrong but Jeanie’s magic can’t affect the mind. While it is true she could of given him great stamina and other physical advantages; a large part of it is how you use that equipment and treat the other person; which would be all Neil.
GungraveNZ, Jeanie’s magic can’t affect the mind, it’s true. But that’s not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about the larger magical context of the genie/master relationship. (Possibly mediated by the bottle, which for all we know is a magical entity itself.)
I think less suspicious and more utterly gobsmacked and confused. Much as I would love to see the aftermath of this I do suspect somethings going to happen that will prevent Jeanie from doing something she’ll regret in the afternoon.
She wouldn’t have to regret it…
I mean, F*&kin is fun, right?
I know i get a kick out of it, why can’t Jean, Neal is her best friend, right?
They were browsing antique stores together?
Yeah, I agree with Brackenn. Why would Jeanie regret this? It’ll be a novel experience for her, Neil is apparently *very* good at pleasuring his partner, and they already like each other as friends.
The only potential squick factor is “OMG I just had sex with a guy!” But that’s mitigated by “And holy crap it was AWESOME!”
Jean is pretty shallow, but. (Big but) I mean as a normal person, if you changed sex and got nasty with your best guy friend, had some laughs, and then got changed back, if it was a positive experience in a (brief) hetero relationship, why wouldn’t that carry through reversion? wouldn’t you feel really close? maybe the start of a bisexual foray? Has anyone besides me had a relationship with a coworker, and ended it, and remained friends?
I dated one girl through high school, that was it I’m not a people person these relationship things are generally a closed book to me and I’m basing my opinions on the cover and blurb.
Technically, Neil is still the master so perhaps Jeanie had to turn him back into Neil because Neil requested to be returned to normal. Sure, she can try to work some feminine wiles on him, but she may not have had much leeway on changing him into himself. Just my speculation.
I am enjoying this story line. It will be interesting to see if/when Araceli and Guano come back into the picture. I assume Agent Anderson is going to remain in airport purgatory until the next time Rodge and/or Natalie need to travel . . .
So far, I don’t believe that Neil has wished (asked for) anything that Jean did not want to give him. I wonder what would happen if he did? Would Jean be compelled to grant the wish, against her will?
Yes, she would be compelled to grant his wish, but, she can subvert that wish that she has to grant him. The Greek Sailor that became a Captain and then got fish turned to gold. But, when that captain tried to make Jeanie his wife, she turned him into female. She granted the wish, but subverted it by changing him in to a girl.
Yea, but was that Jeans Idea? What I wanna know is If Neil wishes for a puppy, Jean just responds with ‘No, you can’t have a puppy’, and not turn Roger into a dog. You know? I mean, was it Jeans free will to turn the sailor into the captain? Maybe she thinks she did it of her own free will, but could she have refused? And I’m not just saying subvert the wish, like turning him into Daryl Dragon of the Captain & Tennille, I’m saying actually not granting anything.
Thanks all. As Robert said, “I read all the comments. I just don’t have much to say (plus I’m usually reading the comments on my Ipad, which is a pain it the butt to comment on).
Kinda hoping “when”, to tell the truth. I want Neil to retain some dignity, some degree of autonomy.
Although I am also prepared for them to get into bed–that is, into the bottle–and then for Jeanie to fall asleep. She wouldn’t even be considering this if she weren’t buzzed on fatigue poisons.
I do rather suspect right now Jeanie’s more in the “Lets see a..qwelq3l how .. lhrqe good. .lkwhogho Neilaat.a wl is.i” all the weird spellling is deliberate she’s been staying up all night and was obviously on the verge of collapsing earlier. I’ve been there a lot thanks to my shift work your not thinking clearly and if she’s like me I think 50srefugee has the right of it since I’d be in the middle of doing something (reading, playing a game) and suddenly realize I’d nodded off for a few minutes.
Her making the connection between what she’s inciting and what it would actually involve (her, having sex as a girl and trying to compare that experience with how good a male lover is) is probably quite a bit beyond her even given her normal lack of forsight.
Belle doesn’t have supernatural powers she can use to severely punish Neil for minor transgressions. Including the “transgression” of getting a boner from accidental contact with a voluptuous genie. Neil has good reason to be suspicious of Jeanie’s advances.
Hmmm, not necessarily. The “There’s gotta be some way to find out how he’s better than me” thought from the two pages ago gives me a different impression. I think Jeanie’s doing this because she thinks studying what Neil does to her in bed will help her learn his technique, so he can be better when he becomes Jean again.
I had the impression that she’d been told that wasn’t going to happen, but she could learn to make herself look male, if she studied, which she hasn’t been willing to do.
Jeanie clearly *wants* to become male again, as evidenced by her attempts to make herself look like Jean for meeting back up with Belle. But what she wants, and how she plans based on those desires, do not necessarily reflect what will *actually happen*. Jean is like that.
I hope Neil is not so plastic that he does what she wants. I really can’t see sex between them you need 3-7 years in a sitcom to to get to that point.
Also why the hell is he not bitching her out? Or does he not care about the Kagirl poofing she does to him?
I’ve been saying for that awhile but thinking about the montages it probably has been a month or two, at least long enough for him to admire her and get her to pose when she was prepping for the duel with Sam. Personally I’m expecting Neil to go through with this (cute girl he’s been attracted too hitting on him and asking for sex is hard for most guys to resist particularly first thing in the morning) but something else (guano perhaps) will interfere.
Jeanie does seem callous and prone to spontaneous acts of idiocy but this seems to be a deeper issue it seems than a simple curiosity egged on by a hint of jealousy?
Does the bottle do more than act as a room to genies? This really don’t seem all that natural….
It was stated at the begining (or close to) that bottle genies are nurturing maternal types. I’d say Jeanie’s adaption to womanhood has been helped along by it but that it doesn’t force behaviour. Remember the genie formed is based on the humans idea of what a genie should be hence the large number of blue aladin style genies. Its possible this is part of Jeanie’s idea of how a genie acts but she isn’t being compelled to act this way.
Genies absolutely have free will, even in the way they grant the compulsory wishes.
My speculation is that the genie/master bond doesn’t compel the pair to specific acts, only modulates their desires and emotions. (Although so far we’ve seen this more for Jeanie than for Neal. This may be amplified or modified by Jean also becoming female.)
Looking for something else, I found this, where Neil/Jean frees a weeping Jeanie from the bottle, and she responds by embracing him, which is not what I’d expect a male to do: ?p=1626
Interesting conversation in comments there, where amongst much else, we speculate that since Neil uncorked the bottle, he is her master now in a way he never was before–including a possible wish number reset.
I raise this point to say that if the uncorking established a true master/genie relationship, one that, ahem, adjusted Jeanie’s emotional response, it may have affected Neil’s responses as well. As I recall, it’s been implied the genie manual says that bottle genies are expected to have sex with their masters. Aracelli acts that way.
But this is symmetrical: if genies are expected to have sex with their masters, then masters are expected to have sex with their genies. Neil might be in no more control of this than Jeanie is.
If this is true, Neil may very well have sex with Jeanie, if she can stay awake long enough–but if they do get jiggy, that will put their entire relationship on a new footing.
Somebody in the last comment thread suggested a a post-coital scene where Jeanie is looking in amazement at Natalie and wondering, “How did she DO that?” which was a great idea. But maybe that will happen with Neil.
I’m also in mind of the first time Jeanie woke up in the bottle to find herself happily cuddling Neil, who was, perhaps, a little too happy. But I think this time, she would not be so angry.
All very unlikely; this is a joke-a-day comic based on Jeanie not behaving like a good, obedient genie.
But, assuming that it can be done without making Neil Jeanie’s sex toy, I find myself enjoying the idea of Jeanie discovering some honest affection for Neil.
A Genie doesn’t have to have sex with there master unless both the Female Genie and her master want to have sex with each other. But, having sex, does have a tendency to captivate a master heart and keep him loyal to her instead of other girls in general and develops emotional, personal relationship with each other. So over time, most girl Genie maters will go that way, because they want it go that way.
But, that not what Jeanie doing here. She mentally flipping back and forth in her head between when she use to be guy and now being a girl. Jeanie made her decision the way a guy make his decision to have sex and not the way a women does. But, now he or she in a female body and he going to get different results than what he was expecting. If Neil messages her, she will go into a ufloria that men don’t go into in the sex act. So everything that Jeanie experiences in a sex act with Neil will be completely different from what she remembers when she was Jean and did it.
Yes, it will change the relationship very drastically too and have a tendency of turning them into lovers by the time it over with. But, before that happens, I would expect Neil to resist it and maybe even having to be bull dogged into doing it. There room for Jeanie to have second thought about continuing to doing it after she done it. Then doing what Jeanie does, blame Neil after she made the decision to do. Then we could have girl talk between Jeanie and Belle about Neil. Belle could be twirling Jeanie bottle in her hands and make wishful thinking wish to have another night with Jean before he goes back to the middle East after his vacation back here. We can have Arcadia poof over looking for Natalie, because she poof out and Rodger asking for his girl friend back. The we have Arcadia messing with Jeanie and Neil with Guano coming in too.
Pretty good analysis that answers Robert’s challenge. I did say that it had been implied, but on re-reading, the implication was not as strong as I thought about sex in particular–and there is Guano’s statement that “this isn’t the middle ages”, which to me suggests there are “rules” that are no longer enforced.
There’s also Jeanie’s admission to herself that if Neil were the genie, sex would be on the list of Jean’s demands that his genie would have to obey.
I’m going to hang my “implication” on that requirement for obedience.
All that aside, it does seem on re-reading that in unguarded moments, Jeanie does show a growing affection for Neil. So rules or no, I’m going with the idea that the master-genie relationship tends to lead that way.
Might be proved wrong next week, but that’s where I am now.
Forgot the references:
?p=180 Jeanie’s summary of Neil’s list of genie duties. Note especially that genies are expected to “Grant their master’s desires”.
?p=56 “I do not look at Neil in any way!” In response to Belle’s claim to the contrary.
?p=201 “not the middle ages” Which, to my mind, suggests a lot more than just getting your master a beer is in the manual. (I wish Guano had not said this. I have a strong dislike of laws that are still in effect, but are simply ignored. That causes real confusion.)
?p=208 Jean’s sexual expectations
…Amongst others. Again, not conclusive, but I read this as implying that genies have a tendency to develop a sexual relationship with their masters. If only, as Larry says, because that’s one way to develop a powerful bond.
Remember when it came to Jean speculating what he would do in id the situation was reversed you were dealing with fulfilling a wish. I get the impression that jennies, even bottle jennies, hare not slave and have a lot of free will when it comes to their Masters. remember Ancelli(SP? on her own free will placed Niel in a torture device when she thought ho was imprisoning people in a small box.
Tim, it’s true that genies are not slaves, contrary to Jeanie’s summary of the duty list. They can and do act of their own free will, once they’ve fulfilled the three wishes requirement.
But note that Neil has pretty much allowed the genies in his life to push him around. He rarely expresses direct commands or wishes.
As I’ve said before, I think things would change radically if he would pick up his slack and start acting like a master, and earning some respect. The one time he tried it [?p=47], it worked pretty well–for about five seconds, until Jeanie forgot again. Note that the list wasn’t a set of specific commands, but rather a set of attitudes.
You are entering another dimension. A dimension not only of sight and sound, but of massive gender-swapping. That’s the sign-post up ahead, you are entering: the CD Rudd Zone.
The question is, at least in reference to this comic, is it correct? Is Jeanie getting away with too much, and would both their lives be better if Neil was more vigilant about keeping her from doing that?
Whether or not it’s correct in the real world is outside the scope of these comments.
Some of the older ones are interesting I’ve always been partial to “Marriage is like a pair of shears, two people joined at the hip forever moving in opposite directions and punishing anyone who tries to get between them.”
I’m somewhat disappointed it’s not going to be Jeanie and Natalie.
I’m pretty sure it was the warmup procedures that Belle appreciated.
Then of course there’s the built-in birth control that way.
Yup. That was a key milestone. And Jeanie’s emotions in response to Neil’s having had sex with Belle quickly shifted from jealousy to the current rather intense curiosity.
Neil with all the luck you are now having getting change back and that good rot, you should go out and buy as many lotto tickets as you can afford and before you know it you will be a Multi-Multi millionaire. whoopee !!!!
Brackenn (December 31, 2014 at 3:41 pm): “Yea, but was that Jeans Idea? What I wanna know is If Neil wishes for a puppy, Jean just responds with ‘No, you can’t have a puppy’.”
That’s a really good question. I’m gonna guess that yeah, Jeanie can do that, but not until she’s granted the first three wishes. And again, she has huge leeway in granting even those three.
The fishing boat incident is instructive.
She grants the sailor one wish by making him captain, but note that the wish was for a nicer captain. That neatly avoids changing the captain’s personality. Then she pops herself back to the apartment.
On her return home, she hugs Neil in gratitude (BTW, not a guy thing to do), then slaps him for slapping her–but note that she doesn’t exact a magical punishment for that.
Later, we see that the new Lady Captain doesn’t make a very dutiful wife, although she seems kinda ambivalent about the “hot…um…guy”. The little girl seems happy enough.
All of this points to the extreme latitude that genies have in granting the first three wishes, and clarifies that the wish granting compulsion applies only to those three. A genie may use magic in self-defense–but note that Jeanie didn’t kill her attacker.
I also think there’s some evidence that some, but not all, of the people who are changed by Jeanie adapt emotionally to their new persona, at least a bit.
I agree with pretty much everything you said. Note that genies can choose to stay with their master after the 3 wishes and they still have powers, thought somewhat reduced. Jeanie has already expressed the desire to remain with her “master” Neil, so I suspect she still has to comply with his expressed wishes (certainly with leeway) and in this strip Neil asked her to return him to normal. Since Jeanie is thinking about finding out how Neil was better in bed than Jean, she didn’t bother to think of a “creative” fulfilment of that wish and it suited her agenda of the moment to make Neil male again.
Maybe retained genies don’t have the obligation to grant their masters wishes, but it seems likely to me that they do.
Robert, I tried to make a post that had several HTML links in, and it looks like it might be held in moderation. Could you give it a nudge, please? (There may be two copies–please use the second one with the date of the post I replied to.)
I missed two points about the fishing trip (in the moderated post you can’t see yet):
1. Jeanie speaks Greek as long as she has a new master. When she has discharged her obligations to him, and returns to Neil, she speaks English again. Nice little detail, Rudd.
2. Aracelli’s bottle, with Aracelli in it, gets mailed back to Cocoa Beach. I think this was one of Jeanie’s instructions to the crew before she returned.
And that just gob smacks me. She was talking about wanting to kill Aracelli, but in the end, she makes sure that Aracelli isn’t thrown back in the ocean, but is instead returned to Neil.
I am seriously touched by this. Deep down, for all her selfishness, all her impetuosity, she is a good, decent person. This act of mercy, of kindness, towards someone she might well regard as an enemy, raises her high in my esteem.
Of course, this also establishes that she is Boss Genie; Aracelli is gonna owe her, big time. That’s gonna be an interesting scene, having that explained to her.
Sadly I think Araceli knows and this is why I dislike her. She spent 500 years at the bottom of the sea within a few days of job swapping with Jeanie (in a way that revealed Jeanie obviously doesn’t know much about being a genie) Jeanie’s not only gotten her out of the water but sent her back to where Jeanie thinks of as home. After that Guano comes to her for help in dealing with the new Genie who saved her and her approach is to torment her (in a way Araceli would have a very deep understanding of how painful what she did is) and then tell her she’s going to steal the master she chose to stay with out of love and see she’s sealed up.
Don’t forget that Araceli and Jeanie traded bottle that they were the Genie of. Araceli trick Jeanie into changing places with each other, with Araceli bottle being at the bottom of the sea. When Jeanie had the other bottle mailed back to the United State or promise to have that bottle mailed back to the United State. Jeanie was still the occupant of that bottle. If Jeanie would have known that she was going to be trading place with the other Genie before it got mailed to the United States, then she would not have had it mailed to the United States. Jeanie did help that other Genie, but it was a side effect of Jeanie helping herself and trading place with the other Genie and the other Genie getting the benefit of what Jeanie did.
I’m not saying there wasn’t self interest involved I’m just saying that Araceli is trying to screw over and get the new, inexperienced genie who was directly responsible for freeing her from being imprisoned under the sea sealed away so she can steal her master. That’s a level of cruelty I don’t think Jeanie’s capable of.
The interesting part that I don’t think Jeanie is considering is that she has no real frame of reference to compare sex with Neil as a girl to in the first place. I doubt this would lead to ‘Dammit now i have to sleep with a bunch of other guys to compare’. Even that wouldn’t give the vital clues, because it’s really a sex with Jean vs sex with Neil comparison. To do that, Jeanie would have to try and time travel back to before the change and randomly sleep with herself to compare. Hmmm…that certainly would be a scheme worthy of Jeanie.
Yeah, that’s a huge flaw in her plan, and suggests to me that not only is she not thinking clearly, due to a powerful mix of jealousy and fatigue, but there may be other forces at work she is not consciously aware of.
Peeing on my tree here: I predict Jeanie and Neil will not consummate their affair right away. Jeanie’s too tired, and Neil’s too suspicious. There are ways CD can prove me wrong, without breaking either character, but that’s the way I’m going right now.
Hehe, yeah, I agree…though the time travel has amusing possibilities. Jeanie suddenly has a flashback to college where ‘he’ remembers meeting a hot blonde for a one night stand and starts to panic wondering if it was really ‘her’ going back in time (whether it was or not) and does she need to do it now just to fulfil the temporal paradox. Everyone needs a wacky time travel predestination paradox in their life.
Of course… Jeannie doesn’t know HOW to time-travel – her only familiarity with that subject would undoubtedly come from watching old TV reruns. So now… where could she possibly get a starship capable of doing a slingshot maneuver around the sun at Warp 8?
I remember that film Bob-Aw very strange plot. Company uses time travel to prevent major disasters using Agents who are their own parents. Hermaphrodites who grow up, get pregnant, get sex change operation, go back in time, get themselves pregnant, then their trainer goes back in time and takes the baby back in time to grow up to be their female self.
Unfortunately for time travel fans, back in 2009 in one of the earliest strips, the note that appears in Jean’s bottle pretty much establishes the immutability of past events in this story, unless CD decides to bring over the parallel timelines so prevalent in Sailorsun.org.
The only problem with time travel established is the potential paradoxes of doing so. If Jean were to realize that a hot blonde he slept with in college was actually him, he’d have to go back in order to prevent established events from being changed.
1) Speaking of time travel.. (were we?) there’s an episode of ‘My Little Pony’ where Twilight is visited by her future self then ties off the time loop by visiting her past self.
2) I bet Jeanie sets up the bedroom and falls asleep before Neil does anything they’ll both regret.
Isn’t obvious? Jeanie like to be the center on everything and she doesn’t like to be left out of anything. Jeanie in a peculiar position of being where she doesn’t want to be, but doesn’t want to be left out. She still has needs for affection, but, she doesn’t want to admit it. So she runs around like a woman that has a bee in her bonnet. So act so strange and will act strange until she accept her gender and chooses to act with those new boundaries.
Neil: (being Mr. Consideration) I need to go to work. If you still feel that way when I get back, we’ll talk.
Jean(nie): (In the time while he’s gone, she has the opportunity to consider what she was about to do and realizes that Neil saved her from herself and … starts to develop a bit of a crush on him for that.)
Not just that, but it drives pretty girls nuts when men walk away from them. That’s not how it’s supposed to work, see. They’ve got the hair, and the face, and the boobs, and the…and what guys usually pester them for, and a guy who walks away?
Jean probably thinks they have more than enough time before she poofs Neil to his job–which goes a long way to explain why Neil gave Belle the best sex ever.
And so it begins.
Yup.
Sure enough, Neil’s a bit suspicious. And Jeanie? You need to turn him into Jean, not Neil.
Jeanie’s working under the assumption that Neil is great at sex. Why would he need to be Jean for that?
You know that. I know that. Jeanie…Jeanie has no idea that…well, Jeanie just has no idea. She doesn’t realize that Belle had sex with Jeanie’s idea of what Jean is like, not with Neil.
I wonder, though, if Neil himself was paying enough attention at the time to know what Jeanie wants him to demonstrate.
I have no clue where you’re getting this idea from. Jeanie has stated/thought multiple times that she wants to learn Neil’s secret to being better at sex than Jean was.
I admit, this is speculative. I don’t think that when Jeanie transformed Neil into Jean, that the magic stopped with Jean’s physical form. I think that Jeanie inadvertently made Neil into Jeanie’s idea of what Jean was like–God’s gift to women, somebody that isn’t much like Neil.
Again, speculative, and I’m prepared to proven wrong in the next comic or two.
Interesting theory. I honestly don’t know if that’s true or not, as my knowledge of this storyline doesn’t go beyond the next few pages.
Correct me if I am wrong but Jeanie’s magic can’t affect the mind. While it is true she could of given him great stamina and other physical advantages; a large part of it is how you use that equipment and treat the other person; which would be all Neil.
GungraveNZ, Jeanie’s magic can’t affect the mind, it’s true. But that’s not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about the larger magical context of the genie/master relationship. (Possibly mediated by the bottle, which for all we know is a magical entity itself.)
I have no idea what you are trying to say, so I will just leave this conversation.
I think less suspicious and more utterly gobsmacked and confused. Much as I would love to see the aftermath of this I do suspect somethings going to happen that will prevent Jeanie from doing something she’ll regret in the afternoon.
She wouldn’t have to regret it…
I mean, F*&kin is fun, right?
I know i get a kick out of it, why can’t Jean, Neal is her best friend, right?
They were browsing antique stores together?
Yeah, I agree with Brackenn. Why would Jeanie regret this? It’ll be a novel experience for her, Neil is apparently *very* good at pleasuring his partner, and they already like each other as friends.
The only potential squick factor is “OMG I just had sex with a guy!” But that’s mitigated by “And holy crap it was AWESOME!”
And you don’t think the discovery she loves having sex with Neil as a girl is something she’d regret when she’s thinking straight again?
Jean is pretty shallow, but. (Big but) I mean as a normal person, if you changed sex and got nasty with your best guy friend, had some laughs, and then got changed back, if it was a positive experience in a (brief) hetero relationship, why wouldn’t that carry through reversion? wouldn’t you feel really close? maybe the start of a bisexual foray? Has anyone besides me had a relationship with a coworker, and ended it, and remained friends?
I dated one girl through high school, that was it I’m not a people person these relationship things are generally a closed book to me and I’m basing my opinions on the cover and blurb.
Technically, Neil is still the master so perhaps Jeanie had to turn him back into Neil because Neil requested to be returned to normal. Sure, she can try to work some feminine wiles on him, but she may not have had much leeway on changing him into himself. Just my speculation.
I am enjoying this story line. It will be interesting to see if/when Araceli and Guano come back into the picture. I assume Agent Anderson is going to remain in airport purgatory until the next time Rodge and/or Natalie need to travel . . .
So far, I don’t believe that Neil has wished (asked for) anything that Jean did not want to give him. I wonder what would happen if he did? Would Jean be compelled to grant the wish, against her will?
Yes, she would be compelled to grant his wish, but, she can subvert that wish that she has to grant him. The Greek Sailor that became a Captain and then got fish turned to gold. But, when that captain tried to make Jeanie his wife, she turned him into female. She granted the wish, but subverted it by changing him in to a girl.
Yea, but was that Jeans Idea? What I wanna know is If Neil wishes for a puppy, Jean just responds with ‘No, you can’t have a puppy’, and not turn Roger into a dog. You know? I mean, was it Jeans free will to turn the sailor into the captain? Maybe she thinks she did it of her own free will, but could she have refused? And I’m not just saying subvert the wish, like turning him into Daryl Dragon of the Captain & Tennille, I’m saying actually not granting anything.
The thing is that if Jeanie does *something* with Neal as Jean, wouldn’t it basically be her doing it with herself in a manner of speaking?
Remains to be seen if she turns Neil into Jean, but her hypothesis here seems to be that it was Neil’s skill that rang Belle’s bells, not the body.
…And back to waiting an entire seven days before we find out how this goes.
I’m in withdrawal already.
Sorry. >_< Does it help if I tell you that the next page is already done, and it's a double-height page?
[lets go of little old lady being mugged for cartoon money]
…A little? Maybe?
It does feel like it was a perfectly set up cliffhanger.
I love Jeanie’s come-hither in frame one.
CD, you are hitting this right out of the park.
Agreed! Jeanie looks super hot in that panel. Here’s the full-resolution version of Jeanie and Natalie in that frame.
Thank you! And please make sure CD knows how much fun this whole sequence has been!
I fully support this ^.
CD reads the comments, so he knows how much you guys are enjoying this.
Yes, and that “Wow, I liked kissing him!” look in panel 3 is even better.
She kissed a girl and she liked it (?)
Thanks all. As Robert said, “I read all the comments. I just don’t have much to say (plus I’m usually reading the comments on my Ipad, which is a pain it the butt to comment on).
Just about what I figured would happen. This can still break in several different Direction though.
Anyone else getting a deja vu feeling like when Dawn first absorbed life energy in sailorsun?
Does Jeanie understand what, exactly, anatomically, is going to happen to her if Neil does what she’s asking?
Does she realize that she has no one to compare Neil to?
Or has she been a bottle genie long enough that she actually wants to have her master make love to her? She’s groggy enough her defenses may be down.
When Neil turns her down, is she going to obsess over how to seduce him?
There are ways to play this out just for laughs. But there could also be some very serious relationship building here.
Honestly? I don’t know which one I want the most.
> When Neil turns her down
Don’t you mean “if”?
Kinda hoping “when”, to tell the truth. I want Neil to retain some dignity, some degree of autonomy.
Although I am also prepared for them to get into bed–that is, into the bottle–and then for Jeanie to fall asleep. She wouldn’t even be considering this if she weren’t buzzed on fatigue poisons.
I do rather suspect right now Jeanie’s more in the “Lets see a..qwelq3l how .. lhrqe good. .lkwhogho Neilaat.a wl is.i” all the weird spellling is deliberate she’s been staying up all night and was obviously on the verge of collapsing earlier. I’ve been there a lot thanks to my shift work your not thinking clearly and if she’s like me I think 50srefugee has the right of it since I’d be in the middle of doing something (reading, playing a game) and suddenly realize I’d nodded off for a few minutes.
Her making the connection between what she’s inciting and what it would actually involve (her, having sex as a girl and trying to compare that experience with how good a male lover is) is probably quite a bit beyond her even given her normal lack of forsight.
If Mea; were inclined to turn down women trying to have their was with him. he would have probably turned down Belle.
Belle doesn’t have supernatural powers she can use to severely punish Neil for minor transgressions. Including the “transgression” of getting a boner from accidental contact with a voluptuous genie. Neil has good reason to be suspicious of Jeanie’s advances.
So she *has* forgotten she used to be a guy. Sleep deprivation sure does funny things…
Hmmm, not necessarily. The “There’s gotta be some way to find out how he’s better than me” thought from the two pages ago gives me a different impression. I think Jeanie’s doing this because she thinks studying what Neil does to her in bed will help her learn his technique, so he can be better when he becomes Jean again.
“When he becomes Jean again”?
I had the impression that she’d been told that wasn’t going to happen, but she could learn to make herself look male, if she studied, which she hasn’t been willing to do.
Jeanie clearly *wants* to become male again, as evidenced by her attempts to make herself look like Jean for meeting back up with Belle. But what she wants, and how she plans based on those desires, do not necessarily reflect what will *actually happen*. Jean is like that.
SO, fake bets on when Jean snaps out of it he’s going to blame Neil for some reason?
No bet. This is one of the reasons I want Neil to keep his pants on.
He wasn’t wearing any pants when he was Natalie. Is he still?
His tshirt changed back to what he was wearing just before Jeanie poofed him into the Jean persona, and yeah, he was wearing pants: ?p=1609
I hope Neil is not so plastic that he does what she wants. I really can’t see sex between them you need 3-7 years in a sitcom to to get to that point.
Also why the hell is he not bitching her out? Or does he not care about the Kagirl poofing she does to him?
Just how much time *has* passed since things first happened?
It’s been a couple months. Since the ‘incident’.
I’ve been saying for that awhile but thinking about the montages it probably has been a month or two, at least long enough for him to admire her and get her to pose when she was prepping for the duel with Sam. Personally I’m expecting Neil to go through with this (cute girl he’s been attracted too hitting on him and asking for sex is hard for most guys to resist particularly first thing in the morning) but something else (guano perhaps) will interfere.
This web comic/sitcom is already running for 5 years. The first comic was posted in 2009. So we are well in your timeframe.
Definitely heading in a direction i am looking forward to whether just teasing us or not 🙂
This is getting awkward….
Jeanie does seem callous and prone to spontaneous acts of idiocy but this seems to be a deeper issue it seems than a simple curiosity egged on by a hint of jealousy?
Does the bottle do more than act as a room to genies? This really don’t seem all that natural….
Kadzooks, you are thinking along the same lines that I am.
It was stated at the begining (or close to) that bottle genies are nurturing maternal types. I’d say Jeanie’s adaption to womanhood has been helped along by it but that it doesn’t force behaviour. Remember the genie formed is based on the humans idea of what a genie should be hence the large number of blue aladin style genies. Its possible this is part of Jeanie’s idea of how a genie acts but she isn’t being compelled to act this way.
Genies absolutely have free will, even in the way they grant the compulsory wishes.
My speculation is that the genie/master bond doesn’t compel the pair to specific acts, only modulates their desires and emotions. (Although so far we’ve seen this more for Jeanie than for Neal. This may be amplified or modified by Jean also becoming female.)
Ung, somebody tell me when it’s over! *hides*
Looking for something else, I found this, where Neil/Jean frees a weeping Jeanie from the bottle, and she responds by embracing him, which is not what I’d expect a male to do: ?p=1626
Interesting conversation in comments there, where amongst much else, we speculate that since Neil uncorked the bottle, he is her master now in a way he never was before–including a possible wish number reset.
I raise this point to say that if the uncorking established a true master/genie relationship, one that, ahem, adjusted Jeanie’s emotional response, it may have affected Neil’s responses as well. As I recall, it’s been implied the genie manual says that bottle genies are expected to have sex with their masters. Aracelli acts that way.
But this is symmetrical: if genies are expected to have sex with their masters, then masters are expected to have sex with their genies. Neil might be in no more control of this than Jeanie is.
If this is true, Neil may very well have sex with Jeanie, if she can stay awake long enough–but if they do get jiggy, that will put their entire relationship on a new footing.
Somebody in the last comment thread suggested a a post-coital scene where Jeanie is looking in amazement at Natalie and wondering, “How did she DO that?” which was a great idea. But maybe that will happen with Neil.
I’m also in mind of the first time Jeanie woke up in the bottle to find herself happily cuddling Neil, who was, perhaps, a little too happy. But I think this time, she would not be so angry.
All very unlikely; this is a joke-a-day comic based on Jeanie not behaving like a good, obedient genie.
But, assuming that it can be done without making Neil Jeanie’s sex toy, I find myself enjoying the idea of Jeanie discovering some honest affection for Neil.
> As I recall, it’s been implied the genie manual says that bottle genies are expected to have sex with their masters
I don’t recall this. Do you have a citation for that?
> I find myself enjoying the idea of Jeanie discovering some honest affection for Neil.
Me, too!
Testing link tags.
I’ve had problems with untagged links being held for moderation; just want to see what happens when they’re tagged.
A Genie doesn’t have to have sex with there master unless both the Female Genie and her master want to have sex with each other. But, having sex, does have a tendency to captivate a master heart and keep him loyal to her instead of other girls in general and develops emotional, personal relationship with each other. So over time, most girl Genie maters will go that way, because they want it go that way.
But, that not what Jeanie doing here. She mentally flipping back and forth in her head between when she use to be guy and now being a girl. Jeanie made her decision the way a guy make his decision to have sex and not the way a women does. But, now he or she in a female body and he going to get different results than what he was expecting. If Neil messages her, she will go into a ufloria that men don’t go into in the sex act. So everything that Jeanie experiences in a sex act with Neil will be completely different from what she remembers when she was Jean and did it.
Yes, it will change the relationship very drastically too and have a tendency of turning them into lovers by the time it over with. But, before that happens, I would expect Neil to resist it and maybe even having to be bull dogged into doing it. There room for Jeanie to have second thought about continuing to doing it after she done it. Then doing what Jeanie does, blame Neil after she made the decision to do. Then we could have girl talk between Jeanie and Belle about Neil. Belle could be twirling Jeanie bottle in her hands and make wishful thinking wish to have another night with Jean before he goes back to the middle East after his vacation back here. We can have Arcadia poof over looking for Natalie, because she poof out and Rodger asking for his girl friend back. The we have Arcadia messing with Jeanie and Neil with Guano coming in too.
Pretty good analysis that answers Robert’s challenge. I did say that it had been implied, but on re-reading, the implication was not as strong as I thought about sex in particular–and there is Guano’s statement that “this isn’t the middle ages”, which to me suggests there are “rules” that are no longer enforced.
There’s also Jeanie’s admission to herself that if Neil were the genie, sex would be on the list of Jean’s demands that his genie would have to obey.
I’m going to hang my “implication” on that requirement for obedience.
All that aside, it does seem on re-reading that in unguarded moments, Jeanie does show a growing affection for Neil. So rules or no, I’m going with the idea that the master-genie relationship tends to lead that way.
Might be proved wrong next week, but that’s where I am now.
Forgot the references:
?p=180 Jeanie’s summary of Neil’s list of genie duties. Note especially that genies are expected to “Grant their master’s desires”.
?p=56 “I do not look at Neil in any way!” In response to Belle’s claim to the contrary.
?p=201 “not the middle ages” Which, to my mind, suggests a lot more than just getting your master a beer is in the manual. (I wish Guano had not said this. I have a strong dislike of laws that are still in effect, but are simply ignored. That causes real confusion.)
?p=208 Jean’s sexual expectations
…Amongst others. Again, not conclusive, but I read this as implying that genies have a tendency to develop a sexual relationship with their masters. If only, as Larry says, because that’s one way to develop a powerful bond.
Remember when it came to Jean speculating what he would do in id the situation was reversed you were dealing with fulfilling a wish. I get the impression that jennies, even bottle jennies, hare not slave and have a lot of free will when it comes to their Masters. remember Ancelli(SP? on her own free will placed Niel in a torture device when she thought ho was imprisoning people in a small box.
Tim, it’s true that genies are not slaves, contrary to Jeanie’s summary of the duty list. They can and do act of their own free will, once they’ve fulfilled the three wishes requirement.
But note that Neil has pretty much allowed the genies in his life to push him around. He rarely expresses direct commands or wishes.
As I’ve said before, I think things would change radically if he would pick up his slack and start acting like a master, and earning some respect. The one time he tried it [?p=47], it worked pretty well–for about five seconds, until Jeanie forgot again. Note that the list wasn’t a set of specific commands, but rather a set of attitudes.
Hey 50s, for future comments, you should know that HTML is fully supported. You can link to something by using an <a href=”url”>link text</a> tag.
Ah HA!
Now I can, dare I say it? rule the world!
Oh, wait, typing HTML tags is too much trouble. Never mind. But thanks, I’ll try to remember that for links.
If Jennie has free will, if Neil puts his foot down she will probably turn him into a girl again.
You are entering another dimension. A dimension not only of sight and sound, but of massive gender-swapping. That’s the sign-post up ahead, you are entering: the CD Rudd Zone.
Hahaha, that got a genuine laugh out of me. 🙂
This won’t end well for Neil no matter what happens…
I saw a great little blip the other day, about a mother explaining the facts of a happily married life to her newly engaged daughter.
“It’s the woman’s job to try to get away with everything she can. It’s the man’s job to keep her from doing it.”
That seems pretty overtly sexist…
The question is, at least in reference to this comic, is it correct? Is Jeanie getting away with too much, and would both their lives be better if Neil was more vigilant about keeping her from doing that?
Whether or not it’s correct in the real world is outside the scope of these comments.
Some of the older ones are interesting I’ve always been partial to “Marriage is like a pair of shears, two people joined at the hip forever moving in opposite directions and punishing anyone who tries to get between them.”
I’m somewhat disappointed it’s not going to be Jeanie and Natalie.
I’m pretty sure it was the warmup procedures that Belle appreciated.
Then of course there’s the built-in birth control that way.
I think the real turning point was back when Neil let Jean back out of the bottle. Take another look at that hug: https://jeaniebottle.com/?p=1626.
Yup. That was a key milestone. And Jeanie’s emotions in response to Neil’s having had sex with Belle quickly shifted from jealousy to the current rather intense curiosity.
Ending this year with a lesbian kiss? Ok.
Wow, this one has gotten a lot of attention – 69 comments so far.
I’ve noticed the ones with Natalie get more comments on average.
Well, and then there’s Jeanie trying to trip Neil and beat him to the floor. That sort of thing always attracts attention.
But yeah, Natalie is cute as the dickens. I actually kind of prefer her to Jeanie.
Also Neil’s lost that funny MIT t-shirt, too…
Poor Roge there goes his shirt.
Yah, but look at all the great lingerie he got to keep!
Neil with all the luck you are now having getting change back and that good rot, you should go out and buy as many lotto tickets as you can afford and before you know it you will be a Multi-Multi millionaire. whoopee !!!!
I think this song will fit here
Night Ranger – Don’t Tell Me You Love Me (Live)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSWPTU_krTY
Has Jean gone INSANE with sleep deprivation and ego issues? 0_0; Or is this due to the gradual adaption to her new gender?
We will have to wait and see.
[Giggles and tickles CD’s chin with a feather boa]
Oh, you tease!
[Flutters eyelashes]
Brackenn (December 31, 2014 at 3:41 pm): “Yea, but was that Jeans Idea? What I wanna know is If Neil wishes for a puppy, Jean just responds with ‘No, you can’t have a puppy’.”
That’s a really good question. I’m gonna guess that yeah, Jeanie can do that, but not until she’s granted the first three wishes. And again, she has huge leeway in granting even those three.
The fishing boat incident is instructive.
She grants the sailor one wish by making him captain, but note that the wish was for a nicer captain. That neatly avoids changing the captain’s personality. Then she pops herself back to the apartment.
There she sees Aracelli, starts ranting in Greek, and Neil slaps her to get her attention. At that moment, a sailor summons her back to the ship, to get his last two wishes. One is to be rich.
But then he asks her to “Make a dutiful wife and bare me sons!” Instead, she turns him into a “dutiful wife”.
Next she turns another sailor into a little girl–but that’s an unwished-for self-defense move to keep him from throwing the bottle back into the ocean.
On her return home, she hugs Neil in gratitude (BTW, not a guy thing to do), then slaps him for slapping her–but note that she doesn’t exact a magical punishment for that.
Later, we see that the new Lady Captain doesn’t make a very dutiful wife, although she seems kinda ambivalent about the “hot…um…guy”. The little girl seems happy enough.
All of this points to the extreme latitude that genies have in granting the first three wishes, and clarifies that the wish granting compulsion applies only to those three. A genie may use magic in self-defense–but note that Jeanie didn’t kill her attacker.
I also think there’s some evidence that some, but not all, of the people who are changed by Jeanie adapt emotionally to their new persona, at least a bit.
I agree with pretty much everything you said. Note that genies can choose to stay with their master after the 3 wishes and they still have powers, thought somewhat reduced. Jeanie has already expressed the desire to remain with her “master” Neil, so I suspect she still has to comply with his expressed wishes (certainly with leeway) and in this strip Neil asked her to return him to normal. Since Jeanie is thinking about finding out how Neil was better in bed than Jean, she didn’t bother to think of a “creative” fulfilment of that wish and it suited her agenda of the moment to make Neil male again.
Maybe retained genies don’t have the obligation to grant their masters wishes, but it seems likely to me that they do.
To be fair we don’t know how dutiful the new captains going to be once she becomes someones wife and bears their sons.
Robert, I tried to make a post that had several HTML links in, and it looks like it might be held in moderation. Could you give it a nudge, please? (There may be two copies–please use the second one with the date of the post I replied to.)
Yup, made two copies. The one here at the bottom is the one to use.
*sigh* This is why I don’t use full links to point to comics.
No problem. Message approved and posted.
I missed two points about the fishing trip (in the moderated post you can’t see yet):
1. Jeanie speaks Greek as long as she has a new master. When she has discharged her obligations to him, and returns to Neil, she speaks English again. Nice little detail, Rudd.
2. Aracelli’s bottle, with Aracelli in it, gets mailed back to Cocoa Beach. I think this was one of Jeanie’s instructions to the crew before she returned.
And that just gob smacks me. She was talking about wanting to kill Aracelli, but in the end, she makes sure that Aracelli isn’t thrown back in the ocean, but is instead returned to Neil.
I am seriously touched by this. Deep down, for all her selfishness, all her impetuosity, she is a good, decent person. This act of mercy, of kindness, towards someone she might well regard as an enemy, raises her high in my esteem.
Of course, this also establishes that she is Boss Genie; Aracelli is gonna owe her, big time. That’s gonna be an interesting scene, having that explained to her.
Sadly I think Araceli knows and this is why I dislike her. She spent 500 years at the bottom of the sea within a few days of job swapping with Jeanie (in a way that revealed Jeanie obviously doesn’t know much about being a genie) Jeanie’s not only gotten her out of the water but sent her back to where Jeanie thinks of as home. After that Guano comes to her for help in dealing with the new Genie who saved her and her approach is to torment her (in a way Araceli would have a very deep understanding of how painful what she did is) and then tell her she’s going to steal the master she chose to stay with out of love and see she’s sealed up.
Don’t forget that Araceli and Jeanie traded bottle that they were the Genie of. Araceli trick Jeanie into changing places with each other, with Araceli bottle being at the bottom of the sea. When Jeanie had the other bottle mailed back to the United State or promise to have that bottle mailed back to the United State. Jeanie was still the occupant of that bottle. If Jeanie would have known that she was going to be trading place with the other Genie before it got mailed to the United States, then she would not have had it mailed to the United States. Jeanie did help that other Genie, but it was a side effect of Jeanie helping herself and trading place with the other Genie and the other Genie getting the benefit of what Jeanie did.
Mehh, gosh darn it, and here I was feeling all warm and snuggly.
Nope, you know what? I’m going to continue to assume Genie’s not a total hard ass bitch. Cause that’s just the way I roll.
At least that’s the way I roll with cute girls who can turn me into a slug.
I’m not saying there wasn’t self interest involved I’m just saying that Araceli is trying to screw over and get the new, inexperienced genie who was directly responsible for freeing her from being imprisoned under the sea sealed away so she can steal her master. That’s a level of cruelty I don’t think Jeanie’s capable of.
Oh my, a new record for comments!! Some of the best analysis I have read to date. Thank you CD for the great story.
Sorry I just had to bring it to 100.
I just have to say, I fucking love this series
I love gender bending fiction fun xD
I’m so glad to hear it. 🙂
Happy New year, everybody, and may the new year be a damn-sight better than the last.
This is the Back to the Future 2 year.
Whoo-Hoo!
still NO HOVERBOARDS(mostly) but someone did make Self-lacing sneakers
And we have 3D cinema. But the shark still looks fake!
It’s got to be. After all, this is the year that the Cubs are due to win the World Series.
The interesting part that I don’t think Jeanie is considering is that she has no real frame of reference to compare sex with Neil as a girl to in the first place. I doubt this would lead to ‘Dammit now i have to sleep with a bunch of other guys to compare’. Even that wouldn’t give the vital clues, because it’s really a sex with Jean vs sex with Neil comparison. To do that, Jeanie would have to try and time travel back to before the change and randomly sleep with herself to compare. Hmmm…that certainly would be a scheme worthy of Jeanie.
Yeah, that’s a huge flaw in her plan, and suggests to me that not only is she not thinking clearly, due to a powerful mix of jealousy and fatigue, but there may be other forces at work she is not consciously aware of.
Peeing on my tree here: I predict Jeanie and Neil will not consummate their affair right away. Jeanie’s too tired, and Neil’s too suspicious. There are ways CD can prove me wrong, without breaking either character, but that’s the way I’m going right now.
Hehe, yeah, I agree…though the time travel has amusing possibilities. Jeanie suddenly has a flashback to college where ‘he’ remembers meeting a hot blonde for a one night stand and starts to panic wondering if it was really ‘her’ going back in time (whether it was or not) and does she need to do it now just to fulfil the temporal paradox. Everyone needs a wacky time travel predestination paradox in their life.
Unless Lord Shithead or Shithead’s Niece arrives and dumps cold water over this situation, I dont see Jeanie giving Neil much choice in the matter XD
Plus lets keep in mind that as a guy, Neil’s massive pushover >.>
True true…his man-‘mones may get the best of him when a cure blonde is trying to get into his pants.
Hah, I love your idea of Jean remembering a hot blonde in college, Bob-AW. That would be so funny.
Of course… Jeannie doesn’t know HOW to time-travel – her only familiarity with that subject would undoubtedly come from watching old TV reruns. So now… where could she possibly get a starship capable of doing a slingshot maneuver around the sun at Warp 8?
URK!
I remember that film Bob-Aw very strange plot. Company uses time travel to prevent major disasters using Agents who are their own parents. Hermaphrodites who grow up, get pregnant, get sex change operation, go back in time, get themselves pregnant, then their trainer goes back in time and takes the baby back in time to grow up to be their female self.
Unfortunately for time travel fans, back in 2009 in one of the earliest strips, the note that appears in Jean’s bottle pretty much establishes the immutability of past events in this story, unless CD decides to bring over the parallel timelines so prevalent in Sailorsun.org.
The only problem with time travel established is the potential paradoxes of doing so. If Jean were to realize that a hot blonde he slept with in college was actually him, he’d have to go back in order to prevent established events from being changed.
1) Speaking of time travel.. (were we?) there’s an episode of ‘My Little Pony’ where Twilight is visited by her future self then ties off the time loop by visiting her past self.
2) I bet Jeanie sets up the bedroom and falls asleep before Neil does anything they’ll both regret.
3) CD…. # 300 coming up soon. Anything planned?
You are aware, aren’t you, that the Devil himself is into My Little Pony?
After a few month maybe Jeanie just wants some affection too. CD still hasn’t cleared up what she is jealous of yet. It could be a few things.
Isn’t obvious? Jeanie like to be the center on everything and she doesn’t like to be left out of anything. Jeanie in a peculiar position of being where she doesn’t want to be, but doesn’t want to be left out. She still has needs for affection, but, she doesn’t want to admit it. So she runs around like a woman that has a bee in her bonnet. So act so strange and will act strange until she accept her gender and chooses to act with those new boundaries.
Trying my hand at prognostication:
Neil: (being Mr. Consideration) I need to go to work. If you still feel that way when I get back, we’ll talk.
Jean(nie): (In the time while he’s gone, she has the opportunity to consider what she was about to do and realizes that Neil saved her from herself and … starts to develop a bit of a crush on him for that.)
“realizes that Neil saved her from herself”
Not just that, but it drives pretty girls nuts when men walk away from them. That’s not how it’s supposed to work, see. They’ve got the hair, and the face, and the boobs, and the…and what guys usually pester them for, and a guy who walks away?
Challenge material.
Jean probably thinks they have more than enough time before she poofs Neil to his job–which goes a long way to explain why Neil gave Belle the best sex ever.
Heh. Could be. Could well be.