Jeanie Bottle 481
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on April 5, 2018
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and modified on July 11, 2018. at 2:42 am
Chapter: Story 11: I Dream of an Escape
Jeanie, you really shouldn’t muck with someone’s brain chemistry while they’re conscious…
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Jeanie, you really shouldn’t muck with someone’s brain chemistry while they’re conscious…
Ok, that’s definitely not a good sign…
I think you broke Natalie, and possibly Neil as well.
You shouldn’t mess with minds Jean, as you don’t know if there will be permanent changes.
I’m more puzzled by what reason that Jean wanted to mess around with Neil’s brain like this? Maybe to experiment how to use “her” magic to bend around the No-Will Controlling Law? Don’t see why Jean needed to womanize Neil into Natalie unless to keep Neil’s hands off of Jean for it.
Okay, the fun is over 🙁 but if Jean did this for her own free will (no blue eyes and visible empathy in the end here)… why the hell did she decide to toy with our… a mean Neil feelings all of the sudden?
That is definitely the prime question at the moment. I have no idea.
I just had a crazy, and I mean CRAZY theory with next to not fundament but because the waiting for a couple of weeks to had answers is kind of painful I will just share it to pass some time:
This whole arc is name ” I Dream of an Escape” and I think that just as Arceli predicted, Jean careless use of magic attracted the Blue Djinn, but instead of killing Jean he or she made a deal with her, those were the dialogue bubbles on her bottle at the beginning of the arc, the deal included share bodies with the end of get into Haji´s palace and help the Blue Djinn create a new genie stealing one Hubun Hajids, because most likely the Blue Djinn is in need of a new body, and because the creation of a new Genie needs and Bonding of love, Jean who does not believe in love mess with Neil brain to make him her partner in the union and then turn him into Natalie to make it more appealing to her, all in exchange of her freedom of all this Genie mess once this is ove, from there comes the name of the arc, the Blue Djinn may had some level of control over her actions and maybe she will stop before is to late (and in the process save little poor Jehane), but in the end all of this is complicate complot between Jean and the Blue Djinn.
I know this is pure madness but is what I got.
That’s a really interesting theory! I have no idea how much, if any of that will turn out to be true.
add that he remembered the things he did
In today’s American do think the younger generation can understand such big words?
Well that’s not a very nice thing to say. Also, you don’t actually have to know what any of those do. The effect that Jeanie’s futzing with them had on Natalie is already pretty clear.
I am being sarcastic as some of the conversation I have had with friends, every other word seems to be the four letter word, as a dyslectic, I have been pushing myself over the years to improve my communication skills.
On the lighter side, there is a group of psychiatrist going to make a career out getting Neil/ Natalie mind straighten out, along with publishing a small library.
“think the younger generation can understand such big words?”
They can read the Internet, that’s close enough. (According to a young woman of my acquaintance, who is now a brain surgeon.)
That alright 50srefugee, you can break down into smaller word for her, so she can understand what there saying. No, problem here!
And now we know what Jean was doing at the beginning of the arc. Oi Vey, and here we thought there was a grand conspiracy.
So i wonder what Jeanie’s reaction would be if Natalie and Rodge already had sex before she unpoof’d her brain?
That would be nightmares for the rest of Neil life.
Ha! Called it! Jeanie didn’t mess with Neil’s free will, she just messed with his brain chemistry, and then let nature take its course.
This clears up some uncertainties about what exactly the limits are of Jeannie’s magic. She can’t control people’s behavior directly, but she can do so INdirectly, nudging them in one way or another. Now, the only question is; why in the hell would she do such a thing? My guess is that either she is under the control of the Blue Djinn, or, in fact, IS the Blue Djinn in disguise.
I already post a long and crazy theory, and even thought in retrospective I already find some holes in it, putting together all the clues in the arc I am sure the blue Djinn is involve, I don’t think he has complete control over Jean, but is in the end he is behind all of this, and even thought I can only specule the reasons, I am almost sure all of this had the end of Nathalie helping either Jean or the Blue Djinn doing the union ritual with the steal Habun Hajid, Jean was under Blue Djinn control in presence of the Habun Hajid (she had blue eyes in the room that time) and she just confessed that she mess with Neil body and mind to make him more appealing.
And that theory is wrong, this proves Jean is just a jerk, no blue djinn needed.
Or, far more likely, Jean is just a dick.
OK, granted.
She acts like one because she no longer has one.
@Random22: From what we’ve seen, Jeanie’s bad behavior long pre-dated her unwilling gender swap.
Called it as well. lust not love.
I have been following articles about persons that have done rash things they would never do in the real world while on Psychotropic Drugs. I am comparing this to what is going through Neil head while running on some heavy duty natural drugs. So Luke, don’t cave into the dark side. (Star-Wars)
Panel 1: Jean admits to being a tremendous jackass. “Hey, you’re ugly so I turned you into a girl. And played around with your brain, just ‘cuz.”
Some friend s/he is…
I think its more like “Hey, I don’t find men attractive, so I turned you into a woman.”
Not gonna argue with the second sentence, though.
No wonder the blue djinn took residence in Jean – they’re the same type of a-hole!
Is it just me or does this seem over the top even for Jean(ie)?
It’s not just you.
Yeah – Jeannie’s done mean things before, but only when she was pissed, for one reason or another. This is the first time she’s been totally callous towards Neil.
It is out of character for Jean to have altered Neil for the reason she stated. I don’t think it is out of character for Jean to lie about why she transformed Neil, though. I still think the transformation was to protect Neil from the djinn and she is lying now so that Neil/Natalie won’t worry about the danger. Neil already knows Jean is a jetk, after all.
Some Greek fisher-former-men would beg to differ.
I’m not even slightly surprised that Jean would do such a thing.
Reminder, one of those fishers wanted Jean as a slave wife and the other wanted to send her to the botton of the ocean… now Agent Anderson and Red are better examples
Not really. Anderson and Red weren’t altered mentally. Anderson is even still in a relationship with her wife apparently, she didn’t suddenly turn into a thot and start sleeping around with guys. And that’s the point, that’s how it’s different.
No, Jean has been like Eric Cartman the whole time. Remember when Eric Cartman had Scott Tenorman eat his parents? Jean would do that, if it met some purpose to his/her/its personal utility. Jean is allergic to responsibility, absolutely MUST pass on the blame for all mistakes to someone else, and doesn’t care a bit about anyone but Jean. Add magic powers to that mix and it’s a wonder Jean hasn’t destroyed the world yet.
I kind of feel bad for Rodge, he was so close this time, I would say that Neil dogde the bullet, but whatever is going on here with Jeanie may be worst than Nathalie’s originals plans for the night.
Seriously Jean(nie) is a Jackass, but said jackassery always takes a specific form. It’s the result of not thinking through and acting on impulse. Can Jean(nie) be petty? Yes. But something that requires this much plannning? No. It takes to much time and effort to put that type of thought into a vendetta. EVERY Vendetta Jean(nie) as enactted so far as been flying by the seat of his/her pants BECAUSE he/she is reacting on impulse.
This moment strikes me as out of character for Jean(nie) and a sign that something is up/wrong with her.
“It’s the result of…acting on impulse.” Yup, I and others have said before, many times, that Jeanie can’t see the end of her own nose. No real malice in her, she just doesn’t think. For her, this was just a practical joke
Jean should have waited until after Natalie’s with Rodge.
Well we don’t know if there are any permanent side-effects from messing with Natalie’s head.
So she might still want to be with Rodge for all we know…
Several people have already mentioned that this is over the top even for Jeannie. Jeannie can be a real Jackass and pull some really raunchy stuff, but, this is completely out side the person that we come both love and hate. There is also no reason for her pull this crap either and nor does it conform to the way Jeannie thinks or acted in the past. The mind of Jeannie doesn’t operate like this.
I have written stories too. Your character develop there own characteristic and attribute both pro and con. When you take writer liberties with your character and make do things they would do, everybody know it.
I don’t know who this Genie is. She may look like Jeannie, but, she not acting like our Jeannie.
Yeah, she’s acting more like a supervillain and less like the jerk we tolerate. Something’s definitely up here, and I’m hoping that it will soon be the jig.
> Something’s definitely up here, and I’m hoping that it will soon be the jig.
That’s some clever word play!
“It’s the result of…acting on impulse.” Yup, I and others have said before, many times, that Jeanie can’t see the end of her own nose. No real malice in her, she just doesn’t think. For her, this was just a practical joke.
No 50srefugee, this wasn’t a practical joke on Jeannie part. Jeannie doesn’t think this way and is completely out of character for her and the way she behaves. Something else is going on here or Jeannie has turned really dark or she is under some bodies else s control. This isn’t Jeannie operating on her own doing this. Jeannie is vain, conceded, self centered, she fly off the handle and lashes out at people and it has terrible consequences and such, But, she not vicious or have malicious thought like this. This is the first time we seen her act like in a cold calculating way and do to a supposed best friend Neil. This doesn’t work for me and I don’t buy it.
Neil’s next words
“OMG, I did …….. in that theatre!!!!”
So, my reading of this is that Jeanie was just messing with Neil because Jeanie is a jerk and was playing around with his friend’s brain chemistry to see what would happen. She then got pulled away unexpectedly. She wasn’t *planning* to leave Natalie/Neil in the lurch, other events just got in the way. Now he’s trying to fix it because he’s not *that* much of a jerk (although still a pretty big one).
Oh, and is it just me, or is Neil the only one who seems to get any “action?”
It seems like “action” is a rather short supply in this comic. I’m sure Rodge will be devastated.
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@Robert: I got the feeling he was creeped out by Natalie being so forward with him. He’ll probably be relieved when Neal’s back. I mean, even his “I’ll sleep with you to save you from the jerkwad genie” comment in I Dream of Green Eyes seemed more like a bad joke than a serious suggestion.
ranck, I think you’ve got it pretty straight. I can onl add that she likely didn’t think her brain chemistry meddling would have any unexpected consequences. It was just a funny joke.
Sure, first you take from him the one thing that makes his life worth living…then you kill any fun she might have without it. Killjoy.
But… but that’s not how neurotransmitters work, AT ALL!
*head explodes*
How so? I legit don’t know, but it seems pretty plausible from what little I do know about brain chemistry.
My understanding is that increasing the level of things like serotonin does not necessarily result in any enhanced pattern of behavior. It just makes your brain work more normally. So for instance, it might relieve depression, but it’s not any kind of an aphrodisiac. It also seems to be connected to memory & reasoning in some way, but it’s not known how.
So Natalie probably should have been less bummed out, but not inclined to be amorous.
As a further explanation, Neurotransmitters are kinda like 1’s and 0’s in a computer, they allow neurons to tell the next neuron ‘yes’ or ‘no’, so what a neurotransmitter does is entirely dependent on what neurons are using it, and increasing the levels of neurotransmitters in the brain just means that there is plenty of that neurotransmitter available for the neurons to communicate with.
In essence: Adding dopamine to the brain will allow more of a dopamine deficient neurons signals to go through, but it wont make a healthy neuron send more signals.
I think It’ll also cause physical pain, depression, massive amounts of anxiety, cravings and self soothing as well as plenty of tears. It might also cause death.
But, ya know, comics
Jeez……it might have been kinder just to let him stay that way.
You might be right, especially if Neil start doing the Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hide transformation or should I say Ms Hide transformation Genie Style.
Oh man, you just reminded me of a weird horror movie called “Dr. Jekyll and Sister Hyde” with that comment. If you can tolerate crappy movies, it’s worth a watch (and a chuckle).
Actually, I kind of like the story. Had a crazy twist to an old classic horror movie. I saw two version of that Dr. Jekyll and Sister Hyde movie. The first version, the two of them died like in the original version of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. In the second version, the guy playing the Dr. Jekyll part had a girl friend that had to save him. I think it would make a great side story of Neil turning into Natalie when he get close to Rodge and turn back into Neil when he get away from Rodge. Even if Jeannie get made a Neil for turning into Natalie, she was the one that created the problem. Of course she won’t remember that or acknowledge that even though it true.
But, it would make a great story plot line for this series in one of it story arcs.
IT would also make a great love triangle too, with Jeannie chasing Neil and Natalie chasing Rodge.
If CD RUDD want to really go out on the limb with a love triangle, Belle chasing Neil/Jean as Jeannie former male self. She jealous of Neil/Jean going out with her former girlfriend and has desire to be her boyfriend again. But she also jealous of Belle going out with her guy friend, that now more like of boyfriend relationship too.
Either one or both of them together or separately on there, would make good stories with wired and twisted results that would make interesting stories too.
Tea.. coffee.. chocolate .. sleep for 12 hours and maybe some serious anti depressants. Hmm well- I honestly don’t know what to say. It’s not the worst thing Jeannie has done… and maybe it’s worth being reminded happiness can be manufactured …
I wonder.. could the bottle exert influence? There seemed to be that implication when Jehane was suspected of theft.
So, Jeanie found a loophole to the “no overriding free will” rule. The question now is: how long until Lord Guano (or some other high-ranking genie) finds out and decides to punish her for it anyway?
Not really, the rule says a genie can show a mortal a path but the mortal is the one who have to choice to take it, messing with the brain chemistry may give the mortal and incentive for certain actions, but the choice is still theres, just here for example, Jean made Nathalie horny so to speak, but it was Nathalie who choice Rodge instead of Belle or even Jean right now.
In terms of Genie legal interpretations, it’s probably equivalent to getting Neil high on some rather powerful drug.
What does CD have against trout ? They are one of the most beautiful and tasty fish on the planet! Now carp………
Maybe Jeannie is vegan.
Better not let her get near YouTube.
I can’t help but notice the Jeanie undid the chemistry changes she did to Natalie, but it appears she left Neil still as Natalie.
Why? We know Jeanie still prefers girls. Is she hoping for a little girl-on-girl action or is she just planning on torturing Neil for a while by leaving him as Natalie to teach Neil sort of what she has been going through as a girl?
Give her time. We still have to hear the explanation as to just why she did all this.
At least Jeanie shows concern… well hoping Neil isn’t dead at least.
Jean is a shoe in for the award this year. You know the Dickhead of the year award. Why is Neil even friends with him anyway????? I know you are going somewhere with this CD but dang Jean could not be less likeable if he tried.
Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
So suddenly receiving genie powers and then not being bound to the whole three wishes deal is going to tempt Jeanie to act like this at some point.
Jeanie never seems to have to face the consequences of her actions (except for the few rare times that Guano gets involved to stop her.) So at this point nothing she does would surprise me, unless of course she tried to kill or erase someone from existence with her powers.
Boss Hogg did try to get her to erase the Duke boys. You are right about power and tyrants.
HEY, a clever way to write your way out of a complex HOLE 😉
this does fit in better with modern tv, where horrible people do horrible things even to their friends and its forgotten about by the next episode. and that’s the “good guys”
Scientists have discovered roughly 100 structural and biochemical gender differences in the brain of male and females. Men use their grey matter more, women use their white matter more. Females have a larger hippocampus with denser nerve connections than men.
Women have MORE of the BONDING chemical oxytocin than men.
Sexual orientation and gender are based in the brain. Women absorb more sensory and emotional information than males do. Women have twice the nerve endings on their skin than men, pleasurable touch sensations are far more intense.
All humans begin life in the womb as females, if a ‘Y’ chromosome is present the embryo turns male, a scientific fact.
Natalie’s brain and body are completely female, physically, biochemical, genetically and neurologically. The only part of Neal left are the memories and experiences, almost like computer data files. The physical MAC computer “Natalie” is ultimately in charge of everything. Sort of like a Mac computer (female) is reading memory files copied from a Windows computer (Male) that has ceased to exist.
Neal’s memories are being used by that female mind in a female brain, a brain hardwired to be attracted to, bond with and mate with males. A body that feels physical sensations, especially pleasure, more intensely than males. Sexual bio and neuro chemicals elevated above normal by magic. Natalie is now female physically and MENTALLY! Natalie isn’t Neal, but a woman with the memories of a Neal who no longer exists!
Sort of like a Battlestar Galactica humanoid male Cylon accidentally downloading into a female Cylon body!
I think.. you are attempting to define something that is trying to define itself. The human brain is the most complex structure known to man. It’s a system bringing order to what must be absolute chaos and it can’t always succeed. The brain finds the easiest ways to make sense of.. sensing.
Actually, the differences between a male and a female brain are far smaller than the differences between most pairs of male brains and/or most pairs of female brains (at least until societal effects get involved). So a female with entirely male memories probably wouldn’t act any more feminine than if they had a male body. (with the possible exception of differences caused by hormones, which I only mention because I don’t know enough of that aspect to know for sure)
gildsoul, I got new for you gildsoul, there isn’t any one answer fit all here! I have searched the internet on this subject matter and there are possible dozens of possibilities here and not just one answer here. Here a short list of the possibilities and this isn’t all of them either.
1. A female mind in a male body or male mind in a female body or a transgender person.
2. A female XY chromosomes, in her mother whom, she got an estrogen blast instead of a testerome blast, What should be a vagina instead of testicle like a regular guy. his or her ovaries are actually male testicle.
3. A male with XX chromosomes, it the reverse of what happen at #2.
4. They can be either male of female and be trained to be or think of themselves to be the opposite sex. Some times it works and some times it doesn’t.
5. People who have XO chromosomes, it people who are missing some of there genetic code, but, still have enough to still be born and live. Gender unknown.
6. People who have XXY, XYY, XXYY, XYYY chromosomes, they have characteristic of both genders and can identify themselves with either gender neither gender over time.
7. There some people that have both a testicle and ovaries, it there not careful, they might accidentally get themselves pragnate.
8. If you believe in re-incarnation, there some that claimed that they were male in one life and female in the next life and will even ask question like why am I a female this time or why am I a male this time.
My response to all this after my search through the internet on this subject is to, Plead Ignorance on this matter! There are too many variables and unknowns to issue. I don’t know and I know that I don’t know and I am not going to act like I do know either and neither does anybody else know either.
How a brain interprets the sensor inputs (constructs reality) is based on function of the brain and what chemicals levels are present. Drug use and head injury’s prove this. The structures in the brain from one human to the next will be the same how ever the size of some of the parts may or may not make a difference. Women’s brains are typically smaller than men’s but the have the same amount of neurons they are just packed tighter. Hormone levels and how a child develops plays a huge role in how the brain works as a adult. switching from male to female as a adult would probably cause some major problems for the person. You can’t throw the switch if the wiring is not hooked up right with out a short circuit. Granted this is a fantasy comic so any thing is possible.
@gildsoul
So much is said here that I think I have to challenge it lest it get accepted as gospel truth.
1) incorrect. Yes, Oxytocin is produced due to the biological role a woman plays. However Males will also experience hormone changes including oxitocin production when child rearing. Ask any father, or uncle, grand father when feeling their blood relative for the first time. It can be more acute then in a woman.
2) No evidence. You can’t say one sex senses more then the other. Like one says this is more red to my eyes then to your eyes. One can suggest a male is trained to endure more physical pain perhaps but this is due to increased lung and muscle capacity as well as cultural influence. We are built very similar in our pleasure and pain responses.
3) Sex orientation is complicated. Environmental and biological influences. Not just genetic- which is just one aspect of biology anyway. Gene expression, mutations and chance all come into it as well as cultural influence.
4) Y chromosome has the male switch yes. It is possible for an X chromosome to accidentally gain the switch resulting in an XX male through translocation. The switch system exists in different forms of the animal kingdom. There are exceptions especially in the world of genetics.
5) Natalie is a fictional character operating on magical principles. I wouldn’t draw any scientific proof from her experiences.
“f a ‘Y’ chromosome is present the embryo turns male, a scientific fact. ”
Not always.
” bond with and mate with males.”
Explain lesbian,s then.
Being LGBT is a congenital condition. (developed before birth)
if that were accurate then it would be something that could screened for soon. soooo…..
Euthanasia.
So she did cause this. Perhaps she only expected this to be a short prank, but altering brain chemicals was a terrible idea.
I gather this may be CD ‘s way to transition the new back to the old. Is it possible there is another outcome? What if Natalie still exists after Jeanie tries to change her? There is still a lot of story that could unfold. I will miss Natalie if Jeanie is successful.
That’s what I meant in my comment above.—-The story suddenly got a lot more complicated and would take many comics to resolve—-The last comic takes out a big chunk of it with an “explanation that sounds a bit contrived on the spur of the moment.—-Why did she change Neil to Natalie to begin with (her excuse sounds a bit weak and lacks motivation)—And Jeanie does not seem the type to be interested in complex brain chemistry.——It all seemed a bit odd to me, but works fine to “resolve” and correct a portion of the current plot and bring it down to more manageable levels.
I think what we have here is a case of Jeanie thinking, “There’s a real problem. What’s the first dumb idea that comes into my head? Okay, THAT’S what I’ll do.”
Hm. That sounds like Standard Operating Procedure for Jeannie.
This is another case of Jeanie thinking, “There a serious problem out there.” And then acting immediately on the first dumb idea she comes up with, without ANY regards for the consequences.
Jean doesn’t get it. She’s been describing LUST this whole time. Love is an entirely different barrel of fish.
Pretty sure she does get it. That’s why she laughed in Natalie’s face when she said she was going to stay a woman because she was in love with Rodge. Because she knew that was a load of crap.
Now that I think about it, does that panel with Natalie spouting gibberish remind anyone else of Homer Simpson celebrating another boneheaded stunt with “no brain damage-amage-amage-amage-amage”?
Actually it’s clearly based on Fred Flintstone’s catchphrase yabba dabba doo. How is that not obvious.
“Who’s Neil!”
Did Jean turn Natalie back into Neil? She calls him “Neil” in the last panel. But we can’t see Neil.
I wonder if Jean can turn Natalie back into Neil now.
So, let me get this straight. In the middle of the night, Jean changes Neil into Natalie in the middle of the night, mumbling some words that, until now, we assumed she was not capable of doing and in a language we had no idea she knew. Viewers speculated theories behind Jean’s choice for prolonging Neil’s stay Natalie including; Jean was put under mind control, her look-alike did it, or something involving this dangerous Geanie. Now we find out Jean transformed Neil into Natalie:
1) While he was sleeping,
2) Knew how to cast a spell/wish to add hormones to his brain with her only expertise being from the internet
3) Forced him to stay as Natalie for an extended period of time, possibly risking his job, his safety (since Natalie has no actual records), and future
4) With the risk of him falling in love in her new, lustful state, sleeping with Rodge, and possibly getting pregnant (Which would probably force him to stay as Natalie for at least nine months as there is no way the Genie committee will not step in since she was magically changed into a woman)
5) Didn’t immediately think about what she did while in the harem (I assumed her lack of concern was because she did not know she changed Neil in the first place)
AND SHE DID ALL OF THIS WITH NO GOOD EXPLANATION OR REASON?!
Please, can someone help me comprehend this?